Recommendation on 14-50 receptacle and a box

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I want to install a sturdy 50a indoor outlet with box any recommendations? Those one I can find on other threads ( Bryant ) are for the flush mount.

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This is the one I've been using for a fixed plug installation, but as you'll soon see this is a very contentious subject.

Leviton 55050 50 Amp, 125/250 Volt, NEMA 14-50R, 3P, 4W, Surface Mounting Receptacle, Straight Blade, Industrial Grade, Grounding, Side Wired, Steel Strap, 1 Pack, Black
 

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If it’s going to stay plugged in all the time any decent quality receptacle is fine. When you’re changing the plug all the time (like a campground pedestal) going with a high quality like the Hubbell is preferred. Any solid box properly mounted to structure should do.
 

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If you’re mounting it in a box, you need a flush mount regardless of how the box is mounted.
A surface mount receptacle looks like this:

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I've installed both and Recommend the Hubbell or Bryant for a few reasons

1) The wire attach uses a V clamp as opposed to an open screw, thus a more secure connection.
2) Allen screw tightening mechanism vs flat head screw terminal. These terminations have to be torqued to a high level that is really hard to achieve with a flat blade screwdriver. If you google melted outlet, loose wires at the connection point a a key reason.

There are only two plusses to the cheap Leviton. It is shallower which makes fitting it in the box easier, and of course it's cheaper.

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I've installed both and Recommend the Hubbell or Bryant for a few reasons

1) The wire attach uses a V clamp as opposed to an open screw, thus a more secure connection.
2) Allen screw tightening mechanism vs flat head screw terminal. These terminations have to be torqued to a high level that is really hard to achieve with a flat blade screwdriver. If you google melted outlet, loose wires at the connection point a a key reason.

There are only two plusses to the cheap Leviton. It is shallower which makes fitting it in the box easier, and of course it's cheaper.

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The Leviton screws need to be tightened with a #2 Robertson driver, not a straight blade in order to get proper torque. I wonder if some of the failures are related to that.
I still wouldn’t use one for an EVSE.
 

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If you’re mounting it in a box, you need a flush mount regardless of how the box is mounted.
This. I'm also leery of Leviton in general because of all the problems with their cheapo unit. The Utilitech (Lowes) surface mount industrial that I had worked for 4 years without issue until I switched to hardwire.

That would be the question to ask yourself too: with a new setup, do you need the outlet for anything else or would you be better off hardwiring? Having done both now, I don't think I'll ever go back to a plug-in style. The mobile charger is exactly that - for when I'm mobile and there's a plug on the road.
 
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I've installed both and Recommend the Hubbell or Bryant for a few reasons

1) The wire attach uses a V clamp as opposed to an open screw, thus a more secure connection.
2) Allen screw tightening mechanism vs flat head screw terminal. These terminations have to be torqued to a high level that is really hard to achieve with a flat blade screwdriver. If you google melted outlet, loose wires at the connection point a a key reason.

There are only two plusses to the cheap Leviton. It is shallower which makes fitting it in the box easier, and of course it's cheaper.

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Which box would you recommend for Bryant/Hubbell? Seems like it needs a deeper one.
And people are saying not all front panels fit.
 

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Which box would you recommend for Bryant/Hubbell? Seems like it needs a deeper one.
And people are saying not all front panels fit.
Bryant and Hubbell are the same less some markings. The Bryant is cheaper, so I'd pick that first.
 

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Which box would you recommend for Bryant/Hubbell? Seems like it needs a deeper one.
And people are saying not all front panels fit.
Regular depth box plus an extender, and a stainless faceplate - mine is the Bryant - def recommend:

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nice, and below you have a charger attached to a pedestal?
 
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Bryant and Hubbell are the same less some markings. The Bryant is cheaper, so I'd pick that first.
There is actually not much difference in price between those two, give you have to pay extra for shipping on Bryant, and Hubbell is shipped fast in amazon.
 

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Jesus Christ people are still recommending levitons? Yall. Stop.
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