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[ericNdfw]

I use a jack load spreader and jack up one side of the car, lower the car onto stands under my jack pads, then jack the other side up and lower it onto the jack pads. You want to use a 2-1/2 to 3 ton jack if you’re using this method. ??

Trying to picture this. Doesn't the load spreader have a pair of lift pads/points on each end? Where to you put those so that the jack stands will also fit on the jack pads?

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[HuntingPudel]

Trying to picture this. Doesn't the load spreader have a pair of lift pads/points on each end? Where to you put those so that the jack stands will also fit on the jack pads?

One large pad on either end. The truss is not long enough to reach the lift points but the rocker panels are more than strong enough to support the side of the car during the lifting process. If they weren’t the car would collapse when on its wheels. I support the car so that the center of the truss is more or less in the middle of the car. I stole the idea from @DevSecOps waaaaay back when he had a car and I didn’t yet have one. ??

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

One large pad on either end. The truss is not long enough to reach the lift points but the rocker panels are more than strong enough to support the side of the car during the lifting process. If they weren’t the car would collapse when on its wheels. I support the car so that the center of the truss is more or less in the middle of the car. I stole the idea from @DevSecOps waaaaay back when he had a car and I didn’t yet have one. ??

That’s actually a pretty good description for those of us who haven’t had to use a jack load spreader before. Thanks.

 

[iam-s-Hon]

That’s actually a pretty good description for those of us who haven’t had to use a jack load spreader before. Thanks.

I don't have the lift and truss, yet. But this sounds like a good approach to get jack stands under the puck on one side vs having to use a scissor lift at the same point where the puck and stand go.

 

[BigMach-E]

I mean, great and all, but if I can’t leave them in, what’s the point? I’m unlikely to be jacking the car up myself. I’m going to take the car into the dealership for service. If they break the car because they don’t know how to lift it, that’s kinda on them, right? I just don’t see myself crawling under the car twice each time to install and remove them, each time the car needs to be lifted/jacked.

 

[DevSecOps]

I mean, great and all, but if I can’t leave them in, what’s the point? I’m unlikely to be jacking the car up myself. I’m going to take the car into the dealership for service. If they break the car because they don’t know how to lift it, that’s kinda on them, right? I just don’t see myself crawling under the car twice each time to install and remove them, each time the car needs to be lifted/jacked.

I never used pucks with the MME, it's really not needed in my opinion. If I really felt the need for something I would just rip a piece of 2x4. Pucks are not used by Ford Service, so I don't see why there's a need.

Either way, if you're under the car attempting to jack it up then placing/removing a puck isn't a big deal. Leaving it in just seems like something I wouldn't ever have even considered. You're down there already so why not just remove it?

The Rivian however must be jacked with pucks and I've already taken it into Les Schwab to do a tire balance because I didn't trust the factory. Those pucks are magnetic and are very easy to use. The guy at the shop said he had never lifted a Rivian before, but I showed him where to put the pucks and the rest was easy. There's no way you would want this big 'ol puck to stay under there.

 

[johndenver]

Don't see why these are necessary. Have jacked my E several times, and you just need to make sure you are jacking on the correct spot (side rails).

Unless you are concerned with a tiny scratch from the jack on the rail, why spend the money?

--John

 

[HuntingPudel]

Don't see why these are necessary. Have jacked my E several times, and you just need to make sure you are jacking on the correct spot (side rails).

Unless you are concerned with a tiny scratch from the jack on the rail, why spend the money?

--John

I have stand covers for a pair of my stands so I only use picks on one end of the car. When I get rid of my legacy stands I will get another pair of stands with urethane covers. At that point I will not need the pucks other than for when a shop is servicing the car. ?‍?

 

[jgcom]

One large pad on either end. The truss is not long enough to reach the lift points but the rocker panels are more than strong enough to support the side of the car during the lifting process. If they weren’t the car would collapse when on its wheels. I support the car so that the center of the truss is more or less in the middle of the car. I stole the idea from @DevSecOps waaaaay back when he had a car and I didn’t yet have one. ??

This guy transitions to stands by lifting from the side center with a rubber pad, without benefit of a spreader: .

 

[HuntingPudel]

This guy transitions to stands by lifting from the side center with a rubber pad, without benefit of a spreader: .

I think I’ll stay using the truss. Some day I may just upgrade to JackPoint jack stands and be done with it. ??

 

[DadzBoyz]

I've purchased @AOSK products for my MME in the past with no complaints. I like them. I like their products. I like that they are active in this community.

That said, I'm a bit concerned about this product.

I had a DM with @AOSK where I asked if they had plans to make something like this before they released them.
Two weeks before they were coming out, they told me they were on the way to warehouses and we would see them on Amazon and EV-=Vida when they were delivered.
When I saw them available, I looked at the listings and saw them listed as "Mach E Lifting Jack Pads Set of 4 Floor Jack Stand from AOSKonology".

I went back to my DM with them and asked if they were made to reused with a mechanic's 4-point car lift. I provided sample pictures of several different types/models of these lifts.
No reply.
I sent a follow-up message.
No reply.

I sent, basically, the same message in this thread and tagged @AOSK .
No reply.
I quoted myself and asked the question again, in this thread.
No reply.

If they're only intended for use with a floor jack, OK.
I'd ask why package two front pads and two back pads together. If they're only to be used with floor jacks, you should only need one of each. lifting up the entire front end or back end with two front or two back jacks is not a safe or good idea. That's kind of what jack stands are for. Even so, where are you going to safely put a jack stand when you lift the car with the puck using a jack. Anyway, if they're only for use with a floor jack, no problem. Just say so and clearly say that they are not to be used with a car lift.

If they can be used with a car lift, please tell us that too.

I'd love to order these, but I need to know the proper use for them.

 

[MyLittlePony2022]

I purchased the lift pads for my car a few months back from one of the first pad threads.

The front ones were very hard to get in the holes. You either have trim the stem or use lube. The diameter of the pad is such that it will not sit flat on the rail without a slice of it being cut.

The rear pad go in easily and no cutting is required. Months later, one of my rear pad fell out. The fronts are solid and in place. I am getting my tires replaced so I very much want to have pads on all four lift points.

I just purchased a set of the AOSK pads. They go in easily. I agree with their statement that they are not meant to be left on the car. The only thing keeping them in the hole is the oversized o-ring. The stem diameter is about 1/8 inch small than the hole. No way they will stay in place over time if the car is driven.

I like to keep the pad on the car and not have to store them (garage or car). I mentioned on a previous post, on this thread, to put in wedge anchors. After getting them and evaluating the options, I chose to compress the stem to expand/bulge it out and lock it in the hole. I only did the rears but it would be same for the front.

Here is what I did: I drilled a 1/4 inch hole through the stem and through the pad. I used a 3/4 inch spade bit to drill into the pad to counterbore a hole for a washer and bolt. I used a 2.5 inch 1/4-20 bolt since I can easily get them in stainless steel at my local Ace Hardware. I put a small washer on the end and ran it up through the pad and stem. I add three washer (wanted some strength for compression... arbitrarily used three, could have been two or one) on top of the stem. Put a nut on that and then a lock nut on the top to keep it all from coming apart. The intent of this is to be able to tighten the bolt such that is crushes the stem and expands it out, when it is on the car. Well it works. See below for pictures.

The fit is good and it does not come out. However, it is not so tight that is is unmovable or will not pull down just a bit. There is about a 1/8 inch that it has to expand to tight up, so I did not expect the fit to extremely tight. I thought of cutting the stem to make it like flower pedal and expand it out such that it cannot be pulled out. However, that might weakened the stem such that is fails and the pad and stem separate.

 

[dtbaker61]

When reading the description, it's clear that these are NOT for permanent installation. So, install them when needed, then remove them when done.

I used modified Tesla Pucks before these were available. The fit is tighter, and I left mine installed rather than remove and replace every time. I wanted to leave them installed in case of emergency lifting at a tire shop of whatever, and not have to carry them around in the cargo area.

I suppose you *could modify these* and add an expansion bolt in the middle of the nub..... I am kinda wondering why @AOSK did not design with an expansion bolt for a 'semi-permanent' install to just leave them in.

I had my pucks IN when my Dealership replaced my HVBJB.... and they did not interfere with dropping the battery tray, so they did not need to be removed even for a battery drop.

 

[AOSK]

I've purchased @AOSK products for my MME in the past with no complaints. I like them. I like their products. I like that they are active in this community.

That said, I'm a bit concerned about this product.

I had a DM with @AOSK where I asked if they had plans to make something like this before they released them.
Two weeks before they were coming out, they told me they were on the way to warehouses and we would see them on Amazon and EV-=Vida when they were delivered.
When I saw them available, I looked at the listings and saw them listed as "Mach E Lifting Jack Pads Set of 4 Floor Jack Stand from AOSKonology".

I went back to my DM with them and asked if they were made to reused with a mechanic's 4-point car lift. I provided sample pictures of several different types/models of these lifts.
No reply.
I sent a follow-up message.
No reply.

I sent, basically, the same message in this thread and tagged @AOSK .
No reply.
I quoted myself and asked the question again, in this thread.
No reply.

If they're only intended for use with a floor jack, OK.
I'd ask why package two front pads and two back pads together. If they're only to be used with floor jacks, you should only need one of each. lifting up the entire front end or back end with two front or two back jacks is not a safe or good idea. That's kind of what jack stands are for. Even so, where are you going to safely put a jack stand when you lift the car with the puck using a jack. Anyway, if they're only for use with a floor jack, no problem. Just say so and clearly say that they are not to be used with a car lift.

If they can be used with a car lift, please tell us that too.

I'd love to order these, but I need to know the proper use for them.

Hi Dan,

This jack pad we designed is a standard jack pad, the only difference between this and other jack is that this piece will fit the Mach E perfectly.
So it wont be an issue, but please still ask for the auto shop's opinion since there are various kinds of lifts, so might not need this.

@BTRYPWRDPONY left a great comment in another thread, " just put them on your passenger seat and tell whomever is taking care of your service that they are there and they should let the tech know to use them. "

 

[AOSK]

I am kinda wondering why @AOSK did not design with an expansion bolt for a 'semi-permanent' install to just leave them in.

we considered making a permanent install one, and we usually use aluminum for those permanent installs one. aluminum is more durable considering there is all kind of driving conditions and they are hanging at the bottom of the car.
But they will be much thinner and a bit more "slippery" if we use an aluminum solution, and plus the Corvette solution seems pretty nice already.

and we saw some owners spend time and modify a Tesla one, so we figure we will provide an alternative option for Mach E Owners.

But of course, all of these are from a product perspective. we need to make sure our product last long and is reliable as a product developer, especially for products like Jack Pad, they have to be done right, thats why we didnt want to make them permanent install

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