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[Mike G]

Mike, can I get the latest for this VIN: 3FMTK3RM1MMA56588

Thanks very much for all you do here.

You currently show as having the "-LKB" revision of GWM software. Unless the cloud plans on skipping straight to the latest version that's rolling out as OTA 5.1.1 ("-NAE") the one in this list below should be "-LKC"...(and then "-NAE" would be next). Hope that makes sense. Earlier this year there were instances where they skipped a revision of GWM software and went straight to the latest rev using an OTA. That may or may not happen again in this scenario. You'll know if you get the message saying you've gotten OTA 5.1.1.

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[CarGuy11]

Just checking. Thx! 3FMTK3SU9NMA41574

 

[Mike G]

Just checking. Thx! 3FMTK3SU9NMA41574

Just like @chesteroberto you have the "-LKB" gateway rev at the minute. So this next one should be either the "-LKC", or if you get OTA 5.1.1 it would probably skip "-LKC" and go straight to rev. "-NAE".

 

[chesteroberto]

You currently show as having the "-LKB" revision of GWM software. Unless the cloud plans on skipping straight to the latest version that's rolling out as OTA 5.1.1 ("-NAE") the one in this list below should be "-LKC"...(and then "-NAE" would be next). Hope that makes sense. Earlier this year there were instances where they skipped a revision of GWM software and went straight to the latest rev using an OTA. That may or may not happen again in this scenario. You'll know if you get the message saying you've gotten OTA 5.1.1.

Makes perfect sense, Mike. Thanks again for checking. I'll await OTA 5.1.1 a little longer before buying a 2-day license and updating myself.

 

[JohnnyForensic]

@Mike G If I could ask you to do your magic, I'd appreciate it. I'm about to take a pretty long round trip (for me) from VA to SC, and I want to know if there's anything waiting in the queue that I should do before I go. Thank you!

3FMTK3SU1MMA42684

 

[DadzBoyz]

@DadzBoyz

OTA 5.1.1 gave you the "-NAE" revision of the GWM software. Glad to see that OTA is rolling out to '22s now.

Here's this morning's snapshot:

Interesting.
After the update I still have updates left to be done.
Looks like Power-Ups are still targeted updates and not full system updates.
May be time for a trip to the dealer. The AC fan motor is making some high pitched noises. Maybe I have them take care of everything at once.

 

[Mike G]

Interesting.
After the update I still have updates left to be done.
Looks like Power-Ups are still targeted updates and not full system updates.
May be time for a trip to the dealer. The AC fan motor is making some high pitched noises. Maybe I have them take care of everything at once.

OTAs can be packaged to update one or more modules. Many OTA updates are single module updates, in fact most are. Some updates that are considered 'coordinated' updates are done all at the same time as a group. An example would be the powertrain updates (PCM, BECM, SOBDM, SOBDMB, SOBDMC, and ABS if it's in the list). Those would all be done as a group because they are all designed to work together and need to be at a compatible level. Other single updates like the GWM, APIM, and TCU as an example, are never updated with any other modules.

When you have several modules showing as having available updates in FDRS, and some of them are also packaged and pushed out as OTAs, your car might get one of them that day, and then normally a day after your car reports update success to the cloud another OTA would then get pushed to your car (assuming conditions are right for that to happen).

 

[Mike G]

@Mike G If I could ask you to do your magic, I'd appreciate it. I'm about to take a pretty long round trip (for me) from VA to SC, and I want to know if there's anything waiting in the queue that I should do before I go. Thank you!

3FMTK3SU1MMA42684

Your gateway rev is "-LKC" now, so that available update in your list is going to be the "-NAE" rev that comes with OTA 5.1.1.

 

[JohnnyForensic]

Your gateway rev is "-LKC" now, so that available update in your list is going to be the "-NAE" rev that comes with OTA 5.1.1.

Thanks so much!

 

[Farfapapa]

hi! if you can help me confirm what's up with VIN 3FMTK1SS4MMA28507, it would be much appreciated.
I took my car to the dealer for camera problems, and they did a full reset, but i think they left me behind on updates somehow because i have PaaK issues again since this visit. Version showing on the car (4.1.2) definitely looks off to me.

 

[Jetsurly]

Would someone mind checking my VIN? Just picked up my new 23 GT and something seems off with the updates as well

3FMTK4SE1PMA28514

 

[Mike G]

hi! if you can help me confirm what's up with VIN 3FMTK1SS4MMA28507, it would be much appreciated.
I took my car to the dealer for camera problems, and they did a full reset, but i think they left me behind on updates somehow because i have PaaK issues again since this visit. Version showing on the car (4.1.2) definitely looks off to me.

21 Apr '21 build date, Job 1 car.

On the 21st the tech did some diagnostics and read up on several TSBs relating to IPMA camera issues and procedures relating to parking aid camera diagnosis, and then updated your gateway module to the very latest software revision for the gateway ("-NAE").
The tech did an IPMA alignment on the 22nd of Aug to address the camera issues you mentioned.

You do have a couple of updates in your list that may help with the PAAK concerns you are seeing. One of which is a long standing update to the driver's seat module (DSM) which was meant to address the occasional mismatch between what keyfob was in use (or phone) and the settings for the driver's seat and mirrors not matching the driver's profile in use.

Another in the list of your updates that may impinge on this problem (only a possibility) is the BCM update.

That taken together with the GFM, and the application of the FDRS routine to enable the center screen soft button would also enable your ability to open your frunk using either the door keypad, or using the Sync screen center button (and also the FP button would then show up as well).

Here's the complete list of available updates as of this morning:

And here's the screengrab of that center screen softbutton tool in FDRS that would enable that frunk button for you after the BCM and GFM get updated.

Hope this helps.

 

[Mike G]

Would someone mind checking my VIN? Just picked up my new 23 GT and something seems off with the updates as well

3FMTK4SE1PMA28514

8 May '23 build date, GT

You're waiting for the gateway to update (it's in your list below):

I recommend doing the BMS learned values reset to ensure your 12V battery is being fully recharged, and checking the "Check Updates" schedule to make sure it's set to a time when you know you'll be out driving the car (set it to a daily time when you'll be about 15 minutes into your morning or evening commute). That way the 12V battery will be fully recharged, and you'll likely be in an area for good AT&T cell coverage and the logic will allow the update to download. At home on the charger with a check updates time at 0100 in the morning, and on your house's Wi-Fi does not necessarily mean the updates will flow like water....for many people their 12V battery state-of-charge is below the 80% minimum by that point (0100) and the logic won't let the update download or process with the 12V battery that low.

There will likely be more than one gateway and APIM (Sync) update showing up for you (after that one in the list completes). You are several iterations behind.

 

[Jetsurly]

8 May '23 build date, GT

You're waiting for the gateway to update (it's in your list below):

I recommend doing the BMS learned values reset to ensure your 12V battery is being fully recharged, and checking the "Check Updates" schedule to make sure it's set to a time when you know you'll be out driving the car (set it to a daily time when you'll be about 15 minutes into your morning or evening commute). That way the 12V battery will be fully recharged, and you'll likely be in an area for good AT&T cell coverage and the logic will allow the update to download. At home on the charger with a check updates time at 0100 in the morning, and on your house's Wi-Fi does not necessarily mean the updates will flow like water....for many people their 12V battery state-of-charge is below the 80% minimum by that point (0100) and the logic won't let the update download or process with the 12V battery that low.

There will likely be more than one gateway and APIM (Sync) update showing up for you (after that one in the list completes). You are several iterations behind.

Thank you so much for the quick reply!! So will these all update without me knowing as I drive? I have auto updates set to 1am I believe but will change that. I’m also always plugged in at home overnight with the slow charger

 

[Mike G]

Thank you so much for the quick reply!! So will these all update without me knowing as I drive? I have auto updates set to 1am I believe but will change that. I’m also always plugged in at home overnight with the slow charger

Being plugged in at night just recharges your HV battery and the 12V battery is getting some charge while that is happening, but after the car's HV battery is charged the 12V battery starts discharging slowly and can be below 80% SOC by 0100, So that's why I recommend changing your settings. Most modules are updated via the A/B method. Meaning the car is actively using the code in memory space "A" during use while the newer update is then downloaded and installed in memory space "B". Once the car is shutdown for a period of about 10 minutes or so and restarted it will swap over and memory space "B" now becomes the primary and that code is in use until the next update comes along.

As to whether or not all those updates will come as OTAs, that's up to how much of a priority Ford engineers and programmers put on each one. I showed you a list of available updates in FDRS but there have been cases where some updates never made it to the OTA state because there were other priorities that Ford deemed more important. There's one that many '21 and '22 model cars have for the driver's seat module that still has never made it to the OTA queue, and it's an update that addresses an issue with driver's seat and mirror settings not matching the current user's profile. So that one has been hangin' out there for two years now for those folks.

"Customer facing" updates like the APIM (Sync) seem to take a priority. They know customers interact with the big screen, and so when they see any changes there it gives the impression that they are getting updates. If they routinely pushed out updates for the other stuff in your list, and those items had no significant impact on your use of the car...well that's not as exciting. Having said that, most Sync updates that provide some new functionality require that the gateway (GWM) get updated first. So you'll usually (if not always) see a gateway update precede a new Sync (APIM) update.

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