Does one-pedal drive strain electric motors/gear train?

[Scooby24]

Good job squashing the misinformation guys. One down, only a little bit more to go!

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[ericNdfw]

Perhaps if Ford actually put a power/regen meter on the console of ALL their EVs, people would realize that it regens in every mode, including 2 pedal. There's about 50% wasted space in the center console and it blows my mind that they couldn't think of anything relevant to put there. I love the car but the software is absurdly poor.

Yes. 1000-times yes! @Ford Motor Company , this needs to be in the Mach-E dashboard UI just live every other BEV and PHEV in existence, including your own.

 

[Barryb54]

Because that statement is also false. 1PD and 2PD have the same efficiency unless you are braking harder in 2PD than 1PD.

I drove my ‘21 for 2 yrs in 1PD and rarely used the brakes. Then just a month or so ago, began driving in 2PD as my wife said it’s a ‘smoother’ ride for her. And very unexpectedly… efficiency increased by 15% or so. I suppose it could be my driving style changed?? But doubtful. I have noticed the brake regen alert popping up much more frequently at 100%. Frankly, it rarely appeared in 1PD. So… it’s 2PD for me now. And yes, I’ll need new brake pads sometime down the road. But a worthwhile cost to gain 15% efficiency (for me, anyway).

 

[Mach-Lee]

I drove my ‘21 for 2 yrs in 1PD and rarely used the brakes. Then just a month or so ago, began driving in 2PD as my wife said it’s a ‘smoother’ ride for her. And very unexpectedly… efficiency increased by 15% or so. I suppose it could be my driving style changed?? But doubtful. I have noticed the brake regen alert popping up much more frequently at 100%. Frankly, it rarely appeared in 1PD. So… it’s 2PD for me now. And yes, I’ll need new brake pads sometime down the road. But a worthwhile cost to gain 15% efficiency (for me, anyway).

The 15% increase is probably due to warmer temps in spring.

Brake coach only appears in engage drive mode, so you must have switched modes.

 

[johnnycombo]

If you keep in mind the cost of a four wheel brake and rotor replacement, 1 pedal makes even more "cents" to use all the time..$..

 

[Mach1E]

If you keep in mind the cost of a four wheel brake and rotor replacement, 1 pedal makes even more sense to use all the time..$..

We will keep repeating ourselves until people understand.

1PD and 2PD use the same amount of regen and friction brakes.

 

[4sallypat]

We will keep repeating ourselves until people understand.

1PD and 2PD use the same amount of regen and friction brakes.

Thank you for clarifying that @MachLee

I drive 2PD as I can't drive 1PD due to urban traffic and having to jump on the brakes all the time.
1PD makes me nauseous as it's very abrupt when I jump on the brakes.

 

[johnnycombo]

We will keep repeating ourselves until people understand.

1PD and 2PD use the same amount of regen and friction brakes.

I have two, yearly state inspection reports, that would differ with that opinion. My daily fourty two mile round trip to work that went over a 1,100 foot mountain ridge and included highway exits and squirrely country roads. Before with an ice vehicle I would replace brakes and sometimes rotors every year!
Zero wear over two years, my next inspection is in July, I would expect the same report.

 

[CTZ]

It's so engrained over the last century of ICE cars, it seems impossible to break people free from this thinking. 1 pedal and 2 pedal on the Mach-E BOTH use regen until it needs more braking force in the form of friction brakes.

 

[Kevin P]

I have two, yearly state inspection reports, that would differ with that opinion. My daily fourty two mile round trip to work that went over a 1,100 foot mountain ridge and included highway exits and squirrely country roads. Before with an ice vehicle I would replace brakes and sometimes rotors every year!
Zero wear over two years, my next inspection is in July, I would expect the same report.

You don't appear to understand what was being referred to. Your statement supports his, not refutes it. 1PD in a Mach E uses regen, then friction brakes as required braking forces increase (if they even do for a given event.) 2PD ALSO uses regen, of the same amount, as 1PD.

 

[Mach1E]

I have two, yearly state inspection reports, that would differ with that opinion. My daily fourty two mile round trip to work that went over a 1,100 foot mountain ridge and included highway exits and squirrely country roads. Before with an ice vehicle I would replace brakes and sometimes rotors every year!
Zero wear over two years, my next inspection is in July, I would expect the same report.

It’s not an opinion. It’s how the Mach E works.

We aren’t comparing 1PD on Mach E to 2PD on ICE.

It’s 1PD Mach E vs 2Pd Mach E.

 

[Barryb54]

The 15% increase is probably due to warmer temps in spring.

Brake coach only appears in engage drive mode, so you must have switched modes.

Yes, warmer weather might account for much of the gain. But have always been in Engage mode. Never varied on that front. Ty for the prompt response, tho!

 

[SJ_Okay]

Because that statement is also false. 1PD and 2PD have the same efficiency unless you are braking harder in 2PD than 1PD.

Thank you… so they are only identical if you are using the brake pedal in both modes and braking at similar intensity?

For me, personally, I never use my brakes in 1pd unless it’s an emergency stop, but in 2pd (Whisper the only drive mode I use 2pd in), I am always on the brakes and have lower efficiency as a result… I’ve tested this on my daily.

Care to let me in on the joke @A-A-Ron?

 

[Mach1E]

Thank you… so they are only identical if you are using the brake pedal in both modes and braking at similar intensity?

For me, personally, I never use my brakes in 1pd unless it’s an emergency stop, but in 2pd (Whisper the only drive mode I use 2pd in), I am always on the brakes and have lower efficiency as a result… I’ve tested this on my daily.

Care to let me in on the joke @A-A-Ron?

No.

They are identical if you speed up and slow down at the same rate.

Letting off the accelerator in 1PD has the exact same amount of regeneration if you hit the brake pedal in 2PD if you slow down at the same rate.

Efficiency and the amount of regen and amount of friction brake usage is IDENTICAL no matter which mode you are in.

Every
Single
Mode

We use blended braking. The car decides to use friction brakes based on how quickly you stop, not based on drive mode.

 

[SJ_Okay]

No.

They are identical if you speed up and slow down at the same rate.

Letting off the accelerator in 1PD has the exact same amount of regeneration if you hit the brake pedal in 2PD if you slow down at the same rate.

Cool. Thanks. That makes sense as it is how the regen across all 3 modes work. So like Mach-Lee said, it’s depends on how aggressive you are on the brake pedal. This makes sense as to why I’m getting less in 2pd… which I was expecting tbh. I feel very ‘encouraged’ to use the brakes late in Whisper 2pd… quite fun. I’m definitely not getting a continuous, identical deceleration between 1 and 2. Thanks for the clarification.

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