We don’t need EV tires…?

[Larry Paul]

Those Pirelli OEMs don’t last at all. Almost anything will last longer.

I have read reports of people getting 4000-25000+ miles out of a set of the OEM Pirelli's.

I saw just over 20K miles on one OEM summer P zero elect at 2/32nds (right rear) and 4/32 on the other three when I swapped them all for a set of P zero elect all seasons. I expect to get 45-50K miles out of that set with no compromise to my range, but improved comfort, far quieter and still acceptable grip for my daily commuting and occasional spirited driving.

For what I want from the car, they are perfect for me and my daily driver.

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[ArthurDOB]

This might be something similar to the Excedrin Migraine scam. It is identical in every way to Excedrin Extra-Strength but costs 21.4% more.

EV tires, eh? ?

 

[ChasingCoral]

Really, the only thing that might be worth it for "EV-specific" tires is the foam they use for noise deadening, since road noise is so much more noticeable in a quiet EV cabin.

Actually two things for noise: foam and tread design. Many EV-focused tires have groove designs that reduce noise.

Efficiency and traction are a trade-off. If you stay on dry roads and away from snow/ice, you can get the most efficient tires out there. The more traction you need, the more it will impact your efficiency.

 

[Billyk24]

Most of what's in that article is stuff I've already thought about and researched for my personal needs.

I drove a Bolt EV for three years, and after doing all the research, I decided for various reasons to pick. up a spare set of wheels with the OEM tyres, deciding that this was just the best compromise especially at the vastly reduced takeoff price.

Likewise, when I realised the OEM tyres on my GT Performance weren't going to stay on the car for long, the research started again. I bought my GT in November, and I live in Virginia. While climate change is making the winters milder, there would still be very long periods where even if it's a "good" winter, the temperatures would just be too cold for the OEM super grippy Pirellis.

I ended up with another set of Pirellis designed for all season use on big electric cars, and it worked out great. I was surprised that there was foam inside the tyres. I'd never seen that before.

But all through the cold weather, these Pirelli all seasons were quiet, and efficient. They gave me very good mi/kWh even in the cold weather.

Now that it's warmer, I'm back on the grippy tyres, and they're also great if slightly noisier.

Something that surprised me was that the summer tyres are so much grippier that I noticed the difference in the parking lot, just turning the steering wheel to negotiate slow turns.

Please excuse the rambling, narcissistic personal expression. LOL....

Bottom line is that yes, I would always shop for EV specific tyres, for a list of reasons related to efficiency, lifespan and comfort/noise.

Many of us from the northern states like to point out about milder winters: It still snows

 

[ChasingCoral]

Many of us from the northern states like to point out about milder winters: View attachment 125639 View attachment 125640 View attachment 125639 View attachment 125640

None of those links work for me.

 

[agoldman]

there is a reason ford picks the tires they do as oem. im petty certain range is tge number one factor it that decision.

 

[Billyk24]

None of those links work for me.

look above

 

[ChasingCoral]

look above

Working now. I guess the server was taking it's time making those available.

 

[zvez]

Most of what's in that article is stuff I've already thought about and researched for my personal needs.

I drove a Bolt EV for three years, and after doing all the research, I decided for various reasons to pick. up a spare set of wheels with the OEM tyres, deciding that this was just the best compromise especially at the vastly reduced takeoff price.

Likewise, when I realised the OEM tyres on my GT Performance weren't going to stay on the car for long, the research started again. I bought my GT in November, and I live in Virginia. While climate change is making the winters milder, there would still be very long periods where even if it's a "good" winter, the temperatures would just be too cold for the OEM super grippy Pirellis.

I ended up with another set of Pirellis designed for all season use on big electric cars, and it worked out great. I was surprised that there was foam inside the tyres. I'd never seen that before.

But all through the cold weather, these Pirelli all seasons were quiet, and efficient. They gave me very good mi/kWh even in the cold weather.

Now that it's warmer, I'm back on the grippy tyres, and they're also great if slightly noisier.

Something that surprised me was that the summer tyres are so much grippier that I noticed the difference in the parking lot, just turning the steering wheel to negotiate slow turns.

Please excuse the rambling, narcissistic personal expression. LOL....

Bottom line is that yes, I would always shop for EV specific tyres, for a list of reasons related to efficiency, lifespan and comfort/noise.

are those the pirelli P zero all seasons with the "elect" code on the sidewall? I've have p zero summers on my GT and was thinking of going to the pirelli all season

 

[Larry Paul]

are those the pirelli P zero all seasons with the "elect" code on the sidewall? I've have p zero summers on my GT and was thinking of going to the pirelli all season

I went to The P Zero Elect all season on my GTPE and for my uses - they are a great all around tire. Far smoother of a drive than my OEM Pirelli Elect Summer tires.

Just put them on last week, but no apparent loss in range (may be slightly improved). Also still grippy enough for fun spirited driving.

 

[Teslaeata]

there is a reason ford picks the tires they do as oem. im petty certain range is tge number one factor it that decision.

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[MacheTX RT1]

I had to replace my OEM Michelin Primacy AS 225 R18 XL at 21k miles on 2022 CRT1. The inner and outer walls were worn though the middle treads were at 6/32. Both dealer and discount tire suggested immediate replacement. Bought same tires from Costco hopefully the warranty of 55k will work this time!!!

 

[MTNestr]

How many miles should I expect on the OEM Mach-E Tires?

 

[Mach1E]

Actually two things for noise: foam and tread design. Many EV-focused tires have groove designs that reduce noise.

Efficiency and traction are a trade-off. If you stay on dry roads and away from snow/ice, you can get the most efficient tires out there. The more traction you need, the more it will impact your efficiency.

Even this isn’t always true.

For example, summer tires have the best traction but also low rolling resistance.

https://tirecraft.com/summer-tires-vs-all-seasons-3-reasons-to-invest-in-performance-tires/

 

[ChasingCoral]

Even this isn’t always true.

For example, summer tires have the best traction but also low rolling resistance.

https://tirecraft.com/summer-tires-vs-all-seasons-3-reasons-to-invest-in-performance-tires/

Good point. They also wear fast because of the soft sticky rubber.

Back to rule #1: It’s always a trade-off.

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