Do you think the BlueCruise update is still coming to MY21/22 cars?

[rugedraw]

Beyond Ford employees? If so, they must be a tiny number or it would have leaked by now.

It cannot be "leaked" because the module updates needed to enable BC 1.4 are only available with FDRS. If someone were to make the FORScan changes needed to enable BC 1.4 on a vehicle without the necessary software in certain key modules, all it will do is break BC altogether.

During the ensuing year of "soon" people have made the BC 1.4 upgrade into something amazing and wonderful. I fear they're in a world of hurt when they find out it's just an incremental upgrade. Yes, for BC 1.0 users, it adds lane change and covers more curves on the freeway but it's not transformative.

I fear an even bigger backlash when it does rollout to the mass population where people say, "I waited this long for this?"

I wholeheartedly agree with this. IMO, the best part of the BC 1.4 update package for people coming from BC 1.0 is the greatly improved BC stability and lane centering function. Lane-change assist is convenient because you don't have to disengage BC to change lanes. The in-lane repositioning works well, but it isn't going to blow anyone away. The predictive speed feature is too aggressive for my liking and I have it turned off.

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[Space_Pony]

I have an April 23 2023 build that came with 1.2 and I have this suspicion that I will not even be able to notice a difference if I ever got a bc update. Of course somebody could say I got an update but I couldn't verify it by looking at any "about" screen. I don't use it enough to justify paying for it after it expires in June 2026.

 

[timbop]

I wholeheartedly agree with this. IMO, the best part of the BC 1.4 update package for people coming from BC 1.0 is the greatly improved BC stability and lane centering function. Lane-change assist is convenient because you don't have to disengage BC to change lanes. The in-lane repositioning works well, but it isn't going to blow anyone away. The predictive speed feature is too aggressive for my liking and I have it turned off.

I am not expecting it to make me waffles or tell me I'm sexy. IMO BC 1.0 is pretty good except for the ping ponging in the lane and occasional desire to hug the right side. If those are fixed I will be quite satisfied. I already have the speed sign recognition turned off, so I'll do the same with the adaptive speed.

 

[azerik]

It is funny that we still think they are actively working on updates. These updates have probably been in the works for years. I mean I can go back to the beginning of deliveries and count the threads about how we really need the 6 chan audio to be adjusted for less background noise. And the countless threads on how we really need the charger port to melt and derate to near half the amperage the car is stated for. Oh and don't get me started on the pages of threads about people who truly hated the speedo in the middle of the screen and would really just like to look at a image of the top of a MME that is not the color of theirs.

The sad truth is that the '21/'22 's had to scrape for any hardware so it's a overly mixed bag of firmware and the dev teams, as I'm sure they was many, that started this project surely arn't around anymore. With cost cutting and turn overs I'd put money on the entire group has turned over. Either because they wen't for more money elsewhere or they got tired of the horrible asks. If there are more than a handful of devs in Ford that are over 35 I'd be amazed.

They are going to need to other wise they are opening the flood gates for a class action lawsuit. Remember people paid for the service on the promise updates would be coming.

One thing I look at is: If your car came with 1.0 or 1.2 or 1.3, you have never received an update. Where was the "We made BC better!" Release notes that would be plastered all over Ford's Socail accounts. Updates have never come for BC, that I can remember seeing.

 

[Blue highway]

Can BC 1.4 run on 21 Job 1 and newer cars?... yes.

However, I suspect the resources that could do an OTA campaign of this size are working on the next gen cars as being ready for that is business imperative. That doesn't mean there will not be BC OTA updates, but I don't think it is a top priority for their limited resources.

I voted yes. I think it is coming eventually.

 

[Chuck]

The word "Promise" is overused and overly strong, but I direct you to this post from July 13th 2023 in which it was stated specifically, or one of the many times Darren Palmer or Jim Farley has said it in interviews. The relevant portion of the post from the Ford-official account (emphasis added):




Some with Job 1 cars in the Early Access program have gotten it as beta testers.

 

[Chuck]

It cannot be "leaked" because the module updates needed to enable BC 1.4 are only available with FDRS. If someone were to make the FORScan changes needed to enable BC 1.4 on a vehicle without the necessary software in certain key modules, all it will do is break BC altogether.

I beg to differ. BC 1.4 absolutely, positively can be sent OTA to cars as far back as Job 1.

 

[rugedraw]

I beg to differ. BC 1.4 absolutely, positively can be sent OTA to cars as far back as Job 1.

I don't think we are on the same wavelength here. I do not dispute this. I have a job 1 F150 that shipped without BC and even though my vehicle was not one of them, I know plenty of people got BC 1.0 activated via the OTA process. When I quoted @Just Lurking, what I was referring to as not being leaked were the FORScan changes needed to activate BC 1.4. The software for BC 1.4 itself has been available in FDRS since December of last year. Ford is not hiding the software for BC 1.4; they are only "hiding" (for a lack of better words) the config that enables the features for people on BC 1.0 since the deployment of 1.4 is on hold.

 

[narmstrong79]

yes, when all the 2021 and some most of the 2022 are either about to or already have run out of their 3 year trial.

 

[azerik]

^^ Nick nails it. ^^ Except there wasn't a 3 year trial, you were lucky to get 1 year and a extension to Dec 23 as it was coming 'soon' and they needed to drive the renewals, which worked from the sounds of it. I paid my $600 to have exactly the same BC I had.

 

[Chuck]

I don't think we are on the same wavelength here. I do not dispute this. I have a job 1 F150 that shipped without BC and even though my vehicle was not one of them, I know plenty of people got BC 1.0 activated via the OTA process. When I quoted @Just Lurking, what I was referring to as not being leaked were the FORScan changes needed to activate BC 1.4. The software for BC 1.4 itself has been available in FDRS since December of last year. Ford is not hiding the software for BC 1.4; they are only "hiding" (for a lack of better words) the config that enables the features for people on BC 1.0 since the deployment of 1.4 is on hold.

Ah, I misunderstood. I know nothing of FDRS. I do know that BC 1.4 has been installed on some Job 1 cars OTA.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Ford seems to have hit pause on updates for the time being. I'm not sure why, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are working out some kinks in the OTA system before rolling BC 1.3/1.4 out to the masses.

All I can say is they are working on it.

 

[ChasingCoral]

There for sure are existing 21 / 22 owners that have blue cruise 1.3. They all just have NDAs that prevent them from talking about it

Nope. No 21/22 vehicles received BC 1.3.

 

[Snakebitten]

I have had the pleasure of using BC 1.0, 1.3, and 1.4

While I agree with the recent couple of posts predicting some measure of anti-climatic for owners who have waited a long time, I don't think that will be the experience for those that will be using BC 1.3/1.4 daily, or on long Bluecruise drives.

I rarely am on Bluecruise roads in my normal commute, but on occasion I have road trips that are 80% or more Bluecruise, and the added stability and improved accuracy really makes a difference on a 400-600 mile day behind the wheel.

Having said that, the subscription price is hefty enough now that only those long days behind the wheel would get me to pay-up.

I have 2 vehicles equipped with it. 1 has recently lapsed, and the other will soon enough. Unless Ford offers additional pricing packages or lowers the 2 they currently offer, I won't be a revenue source. Considering I'm dang near an ambassador of BC1.4, that should be a bit alarming to them.

 

[timbop]

I have 2 vehicles equipped with it. 1 has recently lapsed, and the other will soon enough. Unless Ford offers additional pricing packages or lowers the 2 they currently offer, I won't be a revenue source. Considering I'm dang near an ambassador of BC1.4, that should be a bit alarming to them.

Ford's thinking is clouded by a hardware manufacturing mentality IMHO. They don't realize that the cost structure for software is far different - selling copies of software is virtually free after the development cost to sell the first one. What's worse is that they have been giving the hardware away with new cars as it is, so the cost NOT to get a subscription sale is higher than any actual cost for that software.

One could argue that they have ongoing development costs to fix bugs and add features, but that cost doesn't change with the number of customers beyond a relatively low threshold. The only thing that does change is support and any administrative cost. Since Ford doesn't support their software worth a damn, all that really may change is the admin cost - which has to be comparatively trivial per customer.

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