UPDATED: Replacing Rear Shocks: Reducing the rear end bounce.

[markboris]

Seeing as your car has Magneride, I would say you have already gone way over and above. Investigation of the 2024 shocks isn’t something you need to do. ??

You're right Steve. I can easily order, check them out and return them but not worth my time.

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[Mach1E]

It could be a slight change in valving (maybe a bit more firm) or shortened that long bumper stop. They could have changed the upper or lower mounting materials or nothing at all and just a different manufacturer making the shock. Whatever it was probably wasn't much. Back in the day I would have purchased both to compare them (the updated shock is $15-$20 more) but unless I become bored, nothing really motivates me to do that now.

I’m sure we could start a gofundme for this project!

 

[HuntingPudel]

I’m sure we could start a gofundme for this project!

Yeah, but I think Mark has already done way more than his share. Perhaps someone with a non-Magneride car can pick up the torch. ??

 

[markboris]

I’m sure we could start a gofundme for this project!

Do you really think it is worth looking into? I mean I can have both of those here tomorrow and check them out but don't think it's worth it.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Do you really think it is worth looking into? I mean I can have both of those here tomorrow to check them out but I don't think it's worth it.

I don’t think it’s worth your time Mark. Maybe for someone else’s time, but not for yours. You already pioneered the solution. A new part number could just be as you said an alternate vendor. ?‍?

 

[markboris]

I don’t think it’s worth your time Mark. Maybe for someone else’s time, but not for yours. You already pioneered the solution. A new part number could just be as you said an alternate vendor. ?‍?

There’s been no reports or reviews that state the ride is a night and day difference and even if it was, more than just the shocks would have been changed.

 

[Mach1E]

Do you really think it is worth looking into? I mean I can have both of those here tomorrow and check them out but don't think it's worth it.

Not for me (GTPE). But if the 2024 shocks actually fix the complaint it would be worth someone trying them out.

Honestly the easier approach would be someone test driving a 2023 and 2024 back to back (no miles, new tires) and see if anything actually improved.

 

[azerik]

That's why I'm the Shock mule. I've still not seen anything other than Koni and KW with the correct lower mount. I havn't been able to come up with enough room to have a shock mount created for the rear to be able to use some other shocks either.

With the Eibach GT springs I'm about 1 turn on the Koni's and managed to get my tires down to 35psi which has put me in a place of having to remember I can't make it better if I keep fiddling with it.

If anything I think stock GT shocks from a 23 are the best match for the Eibach GT springs (However rear bounce will be worse than the Koni's) but you could find out how that rides from any GT owner that didn't install Konis. I think if my front struts annoy me enough I'll see if the GT struts are better. (This is still handcuffed from the lack of anyone making anything for the MME really).

 

[FlowDesign]

That's why I'm the Shock mule. I've still not seen anything other than Koni and KW with the correct lower mount. I havn't been able to come up with enough room to have a shock mount created for the rear to be able to use some other shocks either.

With the Eibach GT springs I'm about 1 turn on the Koni's and managed to get my tires down to 35psi which has put me in a place of having to remember I can't make it better if I keep fiddling with it.

If anything I think stock GT shocks from a 23 are the best match for the Eibach GT springs (However rear bounce will be worse than the Koni's) but you could find out how that rides from any GT owner that didn't install Konis. I think if my front struts annoy me enough I'll see if the GT struts are better. (This is still handcuffed from the lack of anyone making anything for the MME really).

I guess those GT '23 shocks don't fit on a SR RWD?

 

[markboris]

I guess those GT '23 shocks don't fit on a SR RWD?

Don't see why they wouldn't fit. Ford hasn't changed the design or mounting of the shocks in any of the trims. Only difference is the valving with the GT shocks being slightly more firm than the other trims.

 

[Dysan911]

I wonder if anyone has ever gone the other direction and tried the softer valving non-GT front strut on a GT. .
Even when I feel I have the rear dialed in on the Koni's the front compression still seems too stiff. Smaller wavy conditions make the front pop up and down like you had a bent rim or something. I never told my Wife anything about my issues with the Suspension in this vehicle and figured to gauge if it's more just me over-focusing on it but when we recently hit that one spot over the weekend and she flat out said. "Why does it do that? " She doesn't typically ever notice little things like that. I'm not even certain if a GTPE with Magnaride would have handled that stretch of road differently or not. In her SUV I can still feel that same wave but it's almost imperceptible unless you really pay close attention. Not the Mach-e though.

I wish KW would offer a less expensive option like just the adjustable shocks from their Coilovers that'd work with the stock hardware.

 

[Dysan911]

@markboris - No desire to ever switch back to the stock springs with the Eibach's I have now but just curious if you know of any way to lift the Mach-e back up maybe an inch with these springs? Is there such a thing as a coil Spring Spacer that could be dropped into the Spring pocket and essentially lift this vehicle back up a bit? If so that might appeal to more owners who want a better ride but are turned off by the lowering aspect of the Eibach springs.

 

[markboris]

@markboris - No desire to ever switch back to the stock springs with the Eibach's I have now but just curious if you know of any way to lift the Mach-e back up maybe an inch with these springs? Is there such a thing as a coil Spring Spacer that could be dropped into the Spring pocket and essentially lift this vehicle back up a bit? If so that might appeal to more owners who want a better ride but are turned off by the lowering aspect of the Eibach springs.

You absolutely can use spacers for the rear and I have done that when I originally had the H&R springs on my car a couple of years ago (they were out way before the Eibach's). H&R messed up on their lowering springs and after installing them, the rear was actually lower than the front. As you can imagine, that did not go over too well with me so I used some Steeda Mustang rear spring spacers (aluminum rings) which are easy to install. They just sit right above the spacer that is on top of the rear spring. You can raise up the rear as much as an inch. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do to raise up the front unless you custom made special spacers that would go on top of the strut mount and would need longer bolts to attach it all.

Rear spring spacers at the top of those H&R springs:

 

[Dysan911]

Ahh ok. I did find this German site that appears to have front and rear spacers for the Mach-e. However they're very expensive.

www.spaccer.com

a 24mm set front and rear would cost $843.xx before shipping and VAT fees, etc.

 

[FlowDesign]

I was thinking by the way, would it not be possible to have the inner washers and oil of the original shocks (of my SR RWD) replaced to improve the shocks?
I'm not sure if the original shocks can be opened at all.

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