How To: Get speedometer back in the middle of instrument cluster display (requires FORScan)

[Kamuelaflyer]

You’re right, I likely am in a minority

I think as time goes on that will change. As people get more used to the technology I think they will be more comfortable using it and more confident in it.

I’m not enamored with BC of any flavor out here, although I do like it. It just doesn’t work all the time (although it’s pretty consistent about where it kicks off and resumes). Ditto for lane centering. Lane keeping is a bit of a hazard on the roads near me. Right shoulders are a whopping 3-inches to 2.5 ft wide. After that there are either houses or a’a lava fields. There’s no room for warnings.

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[medriver]

I think as time goes on that will change. As people get more used to the technology I think they will be more comfortable using it and more confident in it.

I’m not enamored with BC of any flavor out here, although I do like it. It just doesn’t work all the time (although it’s pretty consistent about where it kicks off and resumes). Ditto for lane centering. Lane keeping is a bit of a hazard on the roads near me. Right shoulders are a whopping 3-inches to 2.5 ft wide. After that there are either houses or a’a lava fields. There’s no room for warnings.

There is no room for warnings...that makes no sense, there is obviously room for warnings just the margin is very small, even if you don't like it giving you feedback there is absolutely nothing wrong with and no argument against a visual indicator that you are exiting your lane or following too close.

Again, rational thought.

 

[Jimrpa]

I think as time goes on that will change. As people get more used to the technology I think they will be more comfortable using it and more confident in it.

I’m not enamored with BC of any flavor out here, although I do like it. It just doesn’t work all the time (although it’s pretty consistent about where it kicks off and resumes). Ditto for lane centering. Lane keeping is a bit of a hazard on the roads near me. Right shoulders are a whopping 3-inches to 2.5 ft wide. After that there are either houses or a’a lava fields. There’s no room for warnings.

I love BlueCruise and use it all the time (whenever I say “BlueCruise”, assume I mean “BlueCruise Hands-Free” unless I say otherwise and keep in mind that I’m “old school”. I never use cruise control, etc on surface roads - only limited access, multi-lane roads (I think left coasters call them “freeways” ? We call them “construction zones” here in Pennsylvania ?)).

I will admit that I’m becoming increasingly impressed by the Tesla FSD videos I’ve seen. I still want to see a Tesla FSD videos on a highway with very heavy traffic, at night, during heavy rain or snow. All the videos I see are of drives on bright, sunny days, and what I would consider fairly empty roads and streets.

 

[Jimrpa]

There is no room for warnings...that makes no sense, there is obviously room for warnings just the margin is very small, even if you don't like it giving you feedback there is absolutely nothing wrong with and no argument against a visual indicator that you are exiting your lane or following too close.

Again, rational thought.

Well, what is the accuracy of the system? For example, if the system maintains the vehicle within 4 inches of the lane “centerline”, then it would be possible, in the scenario @Kamuelaflyer described, for the vehicle to go “off road”. However, also keep in mind that he doesn’t have any BlueZones so he always has to have his hands on the steering wheel ?

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

There is no room for warnings...that makes no sense, there is obviously room for warnings just the margin is very small, even if you don't like it giving you feedback there is absolutely nothing wrong with and no argument against a visual indicator that you are exiting your lane or following too close.

Again, rational thought.

The system would have to start giving lane departure warnings before you left the lane or before you even reached the edge of the lane. There are many roads here with zero shoulder. They have an edge line and then dirt, pasture or lava fields not designed for vehicles to even park on. The upper highway between Waimea and Kailua-Kona has about 30 miles of shoulders of less than 6 inches wide including quite a bit with zero shoulder.

This is a picture of the best part of the road going past our subdivision. These shoulders last less than 1 mile. This was taken well over a decade ago as there’s been a long, ongoing draught, and a severe wildfire 3 years ago. This is within Pohakuloa Military Training area. It has the longest stretch of “shoulders” along this road. There are no sections along this road where ACC or BCHO (BlueCruise Hands On) work. Neither lane keeping assist nor lane centering work. Btw, just for grins, about where that car is in the picture is where a “Tank Crossing” sign stood for decades. It was destroyed in the fire.

This is a good 8 miles or more from the above picture. This is just after lower entrance to Waikii Ranch. The minimal shoulder is as wide as it gets anywhere. Most are literally zero.

And this is a`a lava. Do not drive your car onto this. It’s everywhere along the ancient flows from Mauna Loa or Hualalai. Want to see mainland equivalents? Head to the greater Bend, Ore area or Pinnacles National Park in California.

 

[medriver]

Well, what is the accuracy of the system? For example, if the system maintains the vehicle within 4 inches of the lane “centerline”, then it would be possible, in the scenario @Kamuelaflyer described, for the vehicle to go “off road”. However, also keep in mind that he doesn’t have any BlueZones so he always has to have his hands on the steering wheel ?

The lane centering doesn't even kick in until 40mph but it'll always be happy to let you know you are too close to the car in front of you.

I actually feel that being hands off puts you at a disadvantage as a driver as you are unable to react to situations that BC is not equipped to handle, I think it would be safer to say its cruise control with lane centering that requires no steering feedback making hands on optional.

I would never recommend anyone use BC on a road with any significant adverse conditions occurring, it's a pretty limited use tool anyway.

 

[medriver]

The system would have to start giving lane departure warnings before you left the lane or before you even reached the edge of the lane. There are many roads here with zero shoulder. They have an edge line and then dirt, pasture or lava fields not designed for vehicles to even park on. The upper highway between Waimea and Kailua-Kona has about 30 miles of shoulders of less than 6 inches wide including quite a bit with zero shoulder.

This is a picture of the best part of the road going past our subdivision. These shoulders last less than 1 mile. This was taken well over a decade ago as there’s been a long , ongoing draught, and a severe wildfire 3 years ago. This is within Pohakuloa Military Training area. It has the longest stretch of “shoulders” along this road. There are no sections along this road where ACC or BCHO (BlueCruise Hands On) work at. Neither lane keeping assist nor lane centering work. Btw, just for grins, about where that car is in the picture is where a “Tank Crossing” sign stood for decades. It was destroyed in the fire.

This is a good 8 miles or more from the above picture. This is just after lower entrance to Waikii Ranch. The minimal shoulder is as wide as it gets anywhere. Most are literally zero.

And this is a`a lava. Do not drive your car onto this. It’s everywhere along the ancient flows from Mauna Loa or Hualalai. Want to see mainland equivalents? Head to the greater Bend, Ore area or Pinnacles National Park in California.

I just MIGHT know what a'a and pahoehoe are

 

[Old_Norm]

Why would anyone willingly disable safety features on a car drive on public roads? ?

Come on. What's more important, the safety of you and your family or a speedometer moving 3 inches to the left? People have their priorities you know. ?

 

[Old_Norm]

For me, not knowing how fast I’m going because the speedo is behind my right hand and the steering wheel is far more dangerous than disabling lane keeping.

Given the MME’s smooth ride and instant acceleration, I’m quite likely to be going faster than I intended if I can’t see the speed.

Ford’s change has made my car less safe for me and others around me. Y’all who are laughing at those who dislike this change aren’t listening carefully. Nor is Ford.

I tried moving my steering wheel, my seat and my head up and down in my MME and I could never block the Speedo with my hand. You must have unusual body proportions.

 

[spicy_taco]

Oh, this thread is golden and evolved into the expected discussion spanning pages of people who hate the new look discussing why they want the old look back, people who don't care about it telling the previous group why they shouldn't care about it either (and why they're dumb for turning off features)...over and over .

All I really want to know is
a) How did OP (or someone before the OP) figure out that the FORScan setting makes the speedometer centered? Do people just randomly toggle values in FORScan and see what breaks? AND
b) What is the technical reason for it (I've seen it also go back to centered occasionally when my IPMA crashes), so there seems to be some correlation between the IPC not having ADAS capabilities and the speedometer location?

 

[V8toEV]

TLDR:
1. Change IPC value 720-02-01 xx*x xxxx xxxx to one of 0/4/8/C (Lane Assist Disabled)
2. Change Settings > Driver Assistance > Pre-Collision Assist > Distance Indication to OFF

DISCLAIMER: This turns off safety features, use at your own discretion. The effect on BlueCruise after this change is unknown as I don't use that feature. After this change, the lane assist button on the steering wheel does nothing. Adaptive cruise control appears to still work as expected.

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Hey folks! After having my brand new 2023 California Route 1 in for a service, they upgraded a bunch of modules, I guess that included PowerUp 6.8.0 because my instrument cluster started showing the ugly car-in-the-middle as everyone's been bashing here. I also hate it. Love the speedometer in the middle with the beautiful graphics, and that should always be an option for us to choose. @Ford Motor Company PLEASE make this an option so we don't have to hack around this.

Anyways, I've found a fix/workaround to get the speedometer back in the middle. It requires turning off Lane Assist via FORScan and then turning off Distance Indication. I personally dislike Lane Assist anyways (or at least the assist portion, I don't mind if it vibrates to alert me and then I can manually correct).

Adapter required:
https://a.co/d/cSsgylc or https://a.co/d/jeh2tPd

Software required:
https://forscan.org/download.html

Mach-E FORScan codes spreadsheet:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/forscan-mme-spreadsheet.24701/

Procedure:

1. Change IPC value 720-02-01 xx*x xxxx xxxx to one of 0/4/8/C (Lane Assist Disabled)
2. Change Settings > Driver Assistance > Pre-Collision Assist > Distance Indication to OFF

To determine what value you want 0/4/8/C, check what values you have already have for KIIWC and DRLCF...
e.g. if you're staring with:
A = KIIWC enabled • DRLCF disabled • LA Full_LDW_LKA
change to
8 = KIIWC enabled • DRLCF disabled • LA Disabled

Before:

After:

@Ford Motor Company has lost their way. Once upon a time the instrument panel used to be focused on what is important to the human driver, now it's focused on self driving.

 

[Electric Goat]

@Reicher89 Thank you thank you thank you for this. I just made the changes in ForScan for my 2021 Mach-E and the beautiful center speedo (unbridled mode) was restored.

I'm also thrilled to report that the lane keep assist feature still works as long as cruise control is enabled FIRST. I really just use lane keep assist for long highway drives anyway. YAY! This is exactly the functionality that I wanted. This is how my Subaru is configured so I'm thrilled that I could match the configuration of my other car. ...and for the critics, yes my other car (Subaru BRZ) has the speedo and tach overlaid in the center of the screen. It really is the best place for the info.

Now I can stop begging Ford to literally change one value in their code that would probably take a programmer 30 seconds to do.

ForScan was the best Christmas present to myself.... thanks so much. Fucking thrilled over here.

 

[Gullwingdmc]

@Reicher89 Thank you thank you thank you for this. I just made the changes in ForScan for my 2021 Mach-E and the beautiful center speedo (unbridled mode) was restored.

I'm also thrilled to report that the lane keep assist feature still works as long as cruise control is enabled FIRST. I really just use lane keep assist for long highway drives anyway. YAY! This is exactly the functionality that I wanted. This is how my Subaru is configured so I'm thrilled that I could match the configuration of my other car. ...and for the critics, yes my other car (Subaru BRZ) has the speedo and tach overlaid in the center of the screen. It really is the best place for the info.

Now I can stop begging Ford to literally change one value in their code that would probably take a programmer 30 seconds to do.

ForScan was the best Christmas present to myself.... thanks so much. Fucking thrilled over here.

This is HUGE! So does BlueCruise still work? Like hands free? Also what’s the sequencer to activate Cruise/BlueCruise?

I also don’t use lane keep except for the highway, so this would be perfect for me too.

 

[Electric Goat]

This is HUGE! So does BlueCruise still work? Like hands free? Also what’s the sequencer to activate Cruise/BlueCruise?

I also don’t use lane keep except for the highway, so this would be perfect for me too.

I am not sure if Blue Cruise would still work on vehicles with the package. I special ordered my mach e without the Blue Cruise hardware back in 2021 when Ford still allowed that.

Based on what file is being edited in the IPC, I would assume yes blue cruise should still work.

This appears to only turn off lane keeping assist as an independent function.

 

[Gullwingdmc]

I am not sure if Blue Cruise would still work on vehicles with the package. Based on what file is being edited in the IPC, I would assume yes blue cruise should still work.

This appears to only turn off lane keeping assist as an independent function.


I special ordered my mach e without the Blue Cruise hardware back in 2021 when Ford still allowed that.

Interesting. So when you turn on cruise control do you get the blue bubble (round blue lines) around the car icon still?

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