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Thanks for checking this out for me. I stopped by the dealer in town to ask them about completing the 23B50 and they were agreeable to attempt it. He said they would try to clear up as many as they could. Could you just check on their progress sometime this afternoon? Appreciate the help!
They did the powertrain items (23B50) and left everything else:
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Please can someone advise what modules haven’t been updated for my VIN 3FMTK1SSXMMA43660?

During recent visit for a CSP to reprogram PCM per 24B42, I had asked dealer to check software updates, and they gave me paperwork that notes updates were applied to CMR, CCM, IPMA, PSCM, DDM, GSM, RFA, HVAC and WACM. I have no way of verifying if any were done.

Also, the Ford site says I have 2 services to be done, but does not say which ones.

Thanks in advance.
All the work you refer to was done on the 30th of August.
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You have a very small available software list at the moment:
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I don't see anything concerning services needed. Is this in FordPass?
 

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Can somebody please check if i can spent some cash to update the sync module ? WF0TK4SX6MME02905
Just the PCM and ABS for you. Aren't those the two in the recent CSP 24B60 for "Improved Braking Performance" there in the EU/UK region?
 

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Hi!

Can someone please check how it looks like for my Mach-E? WF0TK1E74NMA23235

I have just replaced the 12v battery myself with a brand new (from Ford) but still get the dreaded ”12v system draining” notifications :( And OTA install button is greyed out for some reason. Any indications or input is greatly appreciated, feel like giving up on this car soon.
Also Ford is not really able to assist. Feels hopeless.
Do you have a trailer module?

There is an error concerning a TRM (trailer module) that has not gotten it's initial configuration performed. That could be the source of the drain.

There are procedures in the workshop manual for isolating battery drain. Your tech should be following those.

You aren't getting OTAs because when your car attempts to do them the 12V battery is always too low.
 

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Do you have a trailer module?

There is an error concerning a TRM (trailer module) that has not gotten it's initial configuration performed. That could be the source of the drain.

There are procedures in the workshop manual for isolating battery drain. Your tech should be following those.

You aren't getting OTAs because when your car attempts to do them the 12V battery is always too low.
Wow! Thank you!!

I d have a tow hitch and trailer electrical connection (which is working), so I guess something was not setup right. They actually mounted the hitch at the dealer, car was ordered without.

I might just spend a chunk of money and try to fix it myself using FDRS, or send it back to the dealer. Do you know if it is easy to initialize it?
 


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I've asked once before a month ago, hope asking a second time is OK?

Can you see the 12v health from that system? (36K warranty is going to expire in 4 months) Also any modules flagging for errors or any other general errors?
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Your 12V battery SOC is 86%. There is no real 'health' state shown unless the battery is actually tested and then you'd be able to determine if replacement is required.

When you next talk to your service advisor, I think you'll recall seeing your headlights come on by themselves occasionally. I'm sure you remember seeing that.

Here's the list of available software updates in FDRS:
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Wow! Thank you!!

I d have a tow hitch and trailer electrical connection (which is working), so I guess something was not setup right. They actually mounted the hitch at the dealer, car was ordered without.

I might just spend a chunk of money and try to fix it myself using FDRS, or send it back to the dealer. Do you know if it is easy to initialize it?
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Also, if you have replaced the 12V battery, you need to reset the BMS Learned Values to ensure the battery does fully recharge when you are driving.

Press the start button without pressing the brake pedal.
Flash the high beams 5 times.
Step on the brake pedal 3 times.
Watch the battery indicator on the instrument cluster flash three times.
Press the start button to turn the car off.

Then start the car and drive for at least a half hour or longer to recharge the batter back up.
 

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Hi,
So you expect this updates will activate Blue Cruise?
is there a specific sequence to follow?
Or just from the top to bottoming the list?
Looking at this list:
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That APIM should be done first (requires USB 3.1+ 64GB thumb drive).

Then check for any GWM or TCU or IPC that shows up immediately after that.

If any of those three show up after the APIM then do those first before doing anything else.

After clearing any GWM, APIM, TCU or IPC from the list then select the PCM, which will start the scripted updates of all powertrain modules in this list (PCM, ABS, BECM, SOBDM, SOBDMB, SOBDMC).

Then you can tackle the IPMA and PSCM (also scripted to be updated together). The IPMA can take 2.5 hrs to update. You will need a good steady powersupply (not a battery charger) to provide at least 50 amps at 13.6V for this procedure.

At that point, you should have all the necessary updates (unless more pop up as you work through the list) for BC to be functional. If BC has been enabled for your region you should get a notification that it is available (in FordPass or by email).
 

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Just the PCM and ABS for you. Aren't those the two in the recent CSP 24B60 for "Improved Braking Performance" there in the EU/UK region?
I do have a CSP on my car, maybe i should just go to the dealer for this, then maybe other stuff get available. Thanks Mike !
 

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Also, if you have replaced the 12V battery, you need to reset the BMS Learned Values to ensure the battery does fully recharge when you are driving.

Press the start button without pressing the brake pedal.
Flash the high beams 5 times.
Step on the brake pedal 3 times.
Watch the battery indicator on the instrument cluster flash three times.
Press the start button to turn the car off.

Then start the car and drive for at least a half hour or longer to recharge the batter back up.
Cheers, really appreciate it!

I have done the BMS reset so that should be done already.

A lot of things to configure and update there. Not sure if I have patience to try and get the dealer to fix the issues, or just spend $1k and get the tools needed to do it myself. For my other car I have a version of the Porsche tools to do programming etc myself and it is super handy.
 

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Would it be likely that the remainder of these updates may communicate now that the power train ones are taken care of? Or are most of the 2021 models not receiving any communicate for updates?

The service advisor stated they took care of as many as they could but did not touch the IPMA via direction from Ford.

I’m not sure if that sounds right with how they handle these service advisories or if they just ran out of time on the day and didn’t want it sitting there longer.

They did the powertrain items (23B50) and left everything else:
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Would it be likely that the remainder of these updates may communicate now that the power train ones are taken care of? Or are most of the 2021 models not receiving any communicate for updates?

The service advisor stated they took care of as many as they could but did not touch the IPMA via direction from Ford.

I’m not sure if that sounds right with how they handle these service advisories or if they just ran out of time on the day and didn’t want it sitting there longer.

They did the powertrain items (23B50) and left everything else:
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Well, that assumes that there are OTAs for those other modules. That is not always the case. Many updates, although very useful to have, do not come out as OTAs, but instead would be applied by a tech using FDRS in response to a complaint or concern that you have about some functionality on your car.

I was aware that there are seemingly directives from Ford to not update cruise control related modules (CCM, CMR, IPMA, PSCM) using FDRS unless there is a direct connection to a current fault (my words, not theirs). I don't know why this policy is in place. There are owners who have done all of these updates on their '21 model cars and haven't reported anything negative, so it's a bit of a mystery.
 

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Hi @Mike G, me again. Right back from the dealer to ask you to check if they did CSP 24B60 and maybe more, but I am afraid they did only the recall. Thanks a lot.
VIN WF0TK3SSXMMA37563
 

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Hi @Mike G, me again. Right back from the dealer to ask you to check if they did CSP 24B60 and maybe more, but I am afraid they did only the recall. Thanks a lot.
VIN WF0TK3SSXMMA37563
Just the CSP:
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But not these:
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