Will the doors open without power?

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I read a recent news article about Tesla that caught fire after an accident. The doors couldn't be opened because they required the battery to work, and people died. Will a Mach-e door open without the battery? From what I read the Tesla doors have a separate latch which is difficult to find.
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According to Ford, you just pull the inside latch "all the way" to open any of the doors without power. So in this case, it's the same handle you would normally use, you just may have to pull it slightly farther.

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I read a recent news article about Tesla that caught fire after an accident. The doors couldn't be opened because they required the battery to work, and people died. Will a Mach-e door open without the battery? From what I read the Tesla doors have a separate latch which is difficult to find.
Yes, from inside.
 

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If you’re inside and need to get out when there’s been an electrical failure in the mach-e, you have to do something very radical: pull the door handle all the way back. No hidden panels, no climbing seats, no secret handshake.
 

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What about getting into the vehicle without power? ICE vehicles usually have a backup key slot to unlock and a normal door handle for this, lol.
 


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What about getting into the vehicle without power? ICE vehicles usually have a backup key slot to unlock and a normal door handle for this, lol.
You'd need to pop the frunk via the +/- connections in the front bumper plug. Then charge the 12V battery.
 

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You'd need to pop the frunk via the +/- connections in the front bumper plug. Then charge the 12V battery.
No you don’t. You can get in the car with a dead battery. The door modules have backup power. You can open the doors 5-6 times before that power is depleted. I open my doors all the time when I have the 12V battery disconnected for one reason or another.
 

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What about getting into the vehicle without power? ICE vehicles usually have a backup key slot to unlock and a normal door handle for this, lol.
Normal door handles generate a significant amount of parasite drag. The pulls on the front doors drafts off the outside rear view mirrors adding almost no drag. The same cannot be said of any type of handle that would grace the rear doors. The alternative is to either accept the additional drag and the additive from multiple handles which will result in a range hit, or move to flush handles. Flush handles are far more complicated and suffer from more failures than the current Mach-e system. As for a keyed door, nope there isn’t one. The car was designed from scratch and didn’t have legacy considerations.

Drag considerations are a very significant concern for EV designers and engineers.

If you’re locked out of your car due to a dead 12v (and only due to a dead 12v) and have tried to get in the normal way then you need to get a jump. First to the leads in the front bumper releasing the frunk hood then to the battery jump points. After a few minutes you should be able to get in the car. If you can’t, the issue in all likelihood isn’t a dead 12v battery.
 

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Normal door handles generate a significant amount of parasite drag. The pulls on the front doors drafts off the outside rear view mirrors adding almost no drag. The same cannot be said of any type of handle that would grace the rear doors. The alternative is to either accept the additional drag and the additive from multiple handles which will result in a range hit, or move to flush handles. Flush handles are far more complicated and suffer from more failures than the current Mach-e system. As for a keyed door, nope there isn’t one. The car was designed from scratch and didn’t have legacy considerations.

Drag considerations are a very significant concern for EV designers and engineers.

If you’re locked out of your car due to a dead 12v (and only due to a dead 12v) and have tried to get in the normal way then you need to get a jump. First to the leads in the front bumper releasing the frunk hood then to the battery jump points. After a few minutes you should be able to get in the car. If you can’t, the issue in all likelihood isn’t a dead 12v battery.
Back to the future. The 1969-1972 Pontiac Grand Prix had a nearly flush exterior door handle, having a narrow nub at its trailing edge to extend the handle so that it would release the latch and operate the door. I have always thought it was the most innovative door handles on a car. I keep thinking that I want to French some into my Firebird’s doors. ??

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But... oddly if you get 'the crappy OTA' you could actually end up locked out because the door module doesn't talk to the door popper.
 

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Normal door handles generate a significant amount of parasite drag.
Given the surface area of door handles in relation to the area of the rest of the car, I doubt it would be a 'significant amount'.
 
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Here we go again with this. If only there had been a thread about this before....sigh
Sorry, I looked and didn't see it. :(
 

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If you’re inside and need to get out when there’s been an electrical failure in the mach-e, you have to do something very radical: pull the door handle all the way back. No hidden panels, no climbing seats, no secret handshake.
You all make it sound like it's hard to get out of a burning Tesla. I have a video where I have narrowed down the exit procedure to a mere 23 steps on how to open a Tesla door during a fire.

Ford Mustang Mach-E Will the doors open without power? Tesla


Anyone who is interested send me a PM and I'll give you a link to the 6 hour training video I made on this procedure.
 
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Given the surface area of door handles in relation to the area of the rest of the car, I doubt it would be a 'significant amount'.
No, but every little bit counts. That’s why they spent so much on wheel design. There are big gains to be made there. Of course, canines like me screwed that all up. ??

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