360 camera subscription on 2023 Select

[Wildthing]

Look at what I've found by building a Mach-E on the US ford webiste! They will include the 360 cameras in the Blue Cruise subscription for new owners! Probably because people didn't show a lot of interest to pay for that, they remove options from that car and add them in the subscription like BMW want to do with heated seats. Cheap shot Ford!

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[ZuleMME]

Yea, if I was faced with that or the current pricing I would not have bought a Ford. Happy with what I got though. You watch through the blunder of Ford software stupidity they disable the feature on cars sold as having it without a sub...

 

[Tbird]

What I am going to have to have a 360 camera subscription to keep my 2021 Job 1 cameras alive?

 

[Wildthing]

What I am going to have to have a 360 camera subscription to keep my 2021 Job 1 cameras alive?

I don't think they are the right to do it and I don't think that even if they could they would not to that to their first customers.

 

[Nklem]

2023 Selects is what this applies to from what I read.

 

[RickMachE]

@Wildthing, you are configuring a Select. Ford is giving you the option of trying it, but not paying for it if you don't like it. Prior, if you didn't order it, you couldn't add it. Threads discussing this a week ago.

 

[Logal727]

@Wildthing, you are configuring a Select. Ford is giving you the option of trying it, but not paying for it if you don't like it. Prior, if you didn't order it, you couldn't add it. Threads discussing this a week ago.

I hadn’t seen this yet, originally the select didn’t even come with those cameras right?

 

[Wildthing]

2023 Selects is what this applies to from what I read.

No sign of subscription on the Premium even for Blue Cruise

 

[OON7]

I hadn’t seen this yet, originally the select didn’t even come with those cameras right?

You had to buy the comfort/technology package to get them on the Select. I think this is a better option for the base model car, though I feel bad for anyone getting pushed into a 23 from a 22 since a lot of the other options from that package were cut completely.

 

[Wildthing]

You had to buy the comfort/technology package to get them on the Select. I think this is a better option for the base model car, though I feel bad for anyone getting pushed into a 23 from a 22 since a lot of the other options from that package were cut completely.

From what I heard (and what I see on the Ford website) is that this package is no more available, which means no heated seats on the Select

 

[Wildthing]

@Wildthing, you are configuring a Select. Ford is giving you the option of trying it, but not paying for it if you don't like it. Prior, if you didn't order it, you couldn't add it. Threads discussing this a week ago.

Ok for Blue Cruise (I totally understand that) but did you ever saw a manufacturer that sells a subscription for a 360 camera?

 

[RickMachE]

As stated, prior years allowed you to get neither. What's the difference if you say no?

 

[Mach1E]

Look at what I've found by building a Mach-E on the US ford webiste! They will include the 360 cameras in the Blue Cruise subscription for new owners! Probably because people didn't show a lot of interest to pay for that, they remove options from that car and add them in the subscription like BMW want to do with heated seats. Cheap shot Ford!

You pay $0 for the 90 day trial and get to try before you buy and even change your mind later. It should also add resale value to your car because the next person could opt in.

So why are so many people acting like this is a bad thing?

 

[mateo]

I think the people who dislike this idea (like myself) fear the proverbial slippery slope where this takes us.

Generally speaking, I dislike the notion of software disabling hardware that is already on the vehicle. I understand that:

a) technically it may be cheaper to make all cars the same because the physical hardware costs next to nothing to purchase whereas having allowing it to be configured creates a more expensive production line, and

b) tempting people with previewing a feature may cause them to spend more money than they otherwise would.

Add those together, and it means more money for the manufacturer.

To me this is even more blatantly "wrong" if the hardware in question serves no other purpose. e.g. If the subscription is not purchased then the hardware does nothing. It create e-waste and is just a bad precedence. I'd rather they just split the difference and included it everywhere and spread the cost around.

Ultimately: If the cost of the hardware is so inconsequential then just include it turned-on for everybody. Don't present this as a choice between "not there at all" and "only there for a subscription." A third choice exists: everybody gets to use it. Let's always advocate for the best choice for the consumer.

The only place subscriptions make sense to me on a car is if it is to provide ongoing services that perpetually cost the manufacturer money (e.g. providing internet connectivity or keeping maps up to date).

I will never spend money on a subscription for something like heated seats, a camera, etc. It's ludicrous and I hope enough people agree that it provides no value to the companies that try it.

 

[RickMachE]

Great example of why auto manufacturers can't satisfy everyone. #FirstWorldProblems

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