$77K ... No thanks

[Rt1AWD]

When you have more money than sense… should just do more work and get a GTPE.

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[Rt1AWD]

When you have more money than sense… should just do more work and get a GTPE.

Y? It has a lower range

 

[Electricponi]

Someone named Karen

Hats off to you @DrJay32 , excellent reply!

 

[DrJay32]

Hats off to you @DrJay32 , excellent reply!

BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY HER NAME!

 

[DennisD]

BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY HER NAME!

Sorry, but seeing your picture many times on this forum I just have to ask, do people often mistake you for Jean Luc Picard?

 

[ridgebackpilot]

Tesla’s innovation is they make people feel like they’re not getting screwed when ADM is baked into the purchase price.

There's a big difference between Ford and Tesla raising the prices for their EVs, and sleazy dealers taking advantage of shortages to make a fast buck. Manufacturers add value, dealers just add price.

The law of supply and demand doesn't trump business ethics. Scrupulous dealers know that and refuse to apply ADM.

Ford understands dealer markup is a risk to their brand reputation, which is why they discourage it and allocate more cars to ethical dealerships.

 

[ARK]

There's a big difference between Ford and Tesla raising the prices for their EVs, and sleazy dealers taking advantage of shortages to make a fast buck. Manufacturers add value, dealers just add price.

The law of supply and demand doesn't trump business ethics. Scrupulous dealers know that and refuse to apply ADM.

Ford understands dealer markup is a risk to their brand reputation, which is why they discourage it and allocate more cars to ethical dealerships.

The difference is with the dealer, it is clear it is a cash grab. But just because a manufacturer raises prices doesn’t mean it’s going to a good cause.

Literally, Tesla is about to give Elon Musk a $23 billion bonus because, basically, he successfully forced a large ADM on every single new Tesla order over the past year taking Tesla profitability to new heights.

If Tesla was using that extra revenue to invest in R&D you’d see that reflected in their profits (staying flat or decreasing). Instead, profitability soared and they are giving their CEO a massive payday.

Well-earned for financial performance, sure, but let’s not kid ourselves, that extra $10,000+ Tesla has been collecting from all their new orders over the past year have not been used for extra research and development. Instead, it’s about to be transferred to their largest shareholder.

 

[Ming]

There's a big difference between Ford and Tesla raising the prices for their EVs, and sleazy dealers taking advantage of shortages to make a fast buck. Manufacturers add value, dealers just add price.

What value did Tesla add when it increased price around $10k in a year while removing features such as radar sensor, passenger seat lumber adjustment, data mode for console USB ports, and now mobile charger? In the meanwhile having a gross margin of $16k each car?

 

[DrJay32]

Sorry, but seeing your picture many times on this forum I just have to ask, do people often mistake you for Jean Luc Picard?

There was a transporter malfunction, I swear.

 

[DennisD]

There was a transporter malfunction, I swear.

Tell you what then. I would be willing to pay the extra ADM (to specifically you), if you could "transport" yourself back to the Starship and get me some matter (in the form of deuterium, a kind of hydrogen gas) and antimatter in a fusion reaction mediated by dilithium crystals to power my soon to have MME. What the heck, I may throw in some extra "cake" if you can take me on your ship to get said delivery.

Too funny. I swear every time I saw your avatar it was driving me nuts not to ask.

Thanks for playing along......................or are you?

 

[MisterSofa]

If I was that wealthy, I would buy the Porsche Taycan.

 

[DrJay32]

Tell you what then. I would be willing to pay the extra ADM (to specifically you), if you could "transport" yourself back to the Starship and get me some matter (in the form of deuterium, a kind of hydrogen gas) and antimatter in a fusion reaction mediated by dilithium crystals to power my soon to have MME. What the heck, I may throw in some extra "cake" if you can take me on your ship to get said delivery.

Too funny. I swear every time I saw your avatar it was driving me nuts not to ask.

Thanks for playing along......................or are you?

Next thing you know, you're gonna want the molecular formula for transparent aluminum. I know where this is leading.

 

[Rudy Bega]

When I was looking for one on a lot a couple of male coworkers were searching with me. They would find one incoming on the Ford inventory and tell me the MSRP on a premium and I’d say “no that’s the star white“ or “no that’s the ER, not the SR”. After about the third or fourth one they asked how I knew. I told them I’d spent 4 months looking at inventory and options and I knew. They looked shocked and impressed.

I sometimes think the dealers think most people just woke up this morning and decided to buy an MME. I live in Tampa and I talked to someone at that dealership. A lot of us have searched for a long time or a long distance. We know the pricing, options and details better than they do.

When I got one on the lot, I knew way more about the car than the walkthrough instructor. Although he was very nice, professional and was really trying. ?

Same here, studied for 9 months waiting for my ordered Rapid Red GTPE

 

[TonyaE]

Just to be clear, I can understand a modest markup in this market. But I also know it's not like dealers are losing money when they sell at MSRP, either. The question is whether the demand is real enough to justify these 10-20k markups.

I agree with you. I went in knowing I would have to pay MSRP because of the demand. I’m at peace with that, but paying an extra $10-15,000? That’s insane to me.

 

[jlauro]

Next thing you know, you're gonna want the molecular formula for transparent aluminum. I know where this is leading.

(AlN)x·(Al2O3)1-x, 0.30 ≤ x ≤ 0.37

Aluminium oxynitride is a transparent ceramic composed of aluminium, oxygen and nitrogen.

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