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I'm not saying that this is the cause of your delay, but reading this thread makes me think of this article I read today.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...lantis-detroit-rail-car-shortage/70305532007/
I don't think that is the case for my car cause I live in Canada and even though the car have to come via rail car. Someone ordered in January at y dealer got their car last week.So this is not the case and Ford is definitely not going on first come first service basis.
 

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I really am sorry you're having to go through this. When I ordered my first MME it took 9 months to go from a reservation to an order to eventually my dealership.

And tomorrow I'm trading in that car for a '23 model...that I didn't order, was made in the middle of March, and arrived at my dealer as a mannequin about a week and a half after it rolled out of the plant! It had to stay on the FCTP plan for 60 days, and today is day 61. I told my salesman I wanted that car about a week after it had arrived at the dealership and they have basically been keeping it clean, charged, and parked just waiting for the end of the FCTP program term to expire.

I'm not telling you this to brag, or gloat, or rub it in. I'm telling you this because when my salesman and I were talking about how the EV market has softened a bit, and that there seemed to be dealers with MME stock on hand, he pulled up the locator on his tablet and found hundreds of available cars.

I'm suggesting to you that you go to your dealer and ask them to look up available cars with a similar spec to the one you ordered, and ask them to have that one shipped. Your dealer will have to explain to Ford why one of their customers is backing out of an order, and they can blame it on the fact that your order was never delivered. Hopefully you can get the same terms on a replacement for the car that's gone missing.
 
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An update: as you all know I have already contacted Elena Ford's office but didn't get a reasonable and decent response from there. I have emailed some other executives of Ford. I was able to get hold of working emails of the following:
Jim Azzouz Executive Director, Global Customer Relations & Customer Experience ,
Dave Bozeman Vice President Global Ford Customer Service Division & Enthusiast Vehicles &
Jim Farley President and CEO. The email have successfully been delivered meaning the mailboxes of the following are working and have received my email. Now hopefully I get a positive and better response than Elena Ford's office.
 

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Someone ordered in January at y dealer got their car last week.So this is not the case and Ford is definitely not going on first come first service basis.
I am not advocating Ford but this sort of madness is relevant to almost all the car vendors on the market right now. People who managed to get their cars back in 2019 or earlier, before all this madness with the pandemic, they are extremely lucky. I myself got Dodge Ram back in 2020 via abetter.bid and also had zero problems with it.
 
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I am not advocating Ford but this sort of madness is relevant to almost all the car vendors on the market right now. People who managed to get their cars back in 2019 or earlier, before all this madness with the pandemic, they are extremely lucky.
I understand that. In case you are not aware I ordered my car on April 21st 2022. My order was accepted on 9 September 2022. My car was built on March 21 and Shipped on March 22. It travelled from Mexico to Texas to its final destination Ramp 6R in Kansas since April 8th its sitting there, I have had over 10 ETAs and pushed back by two months. My car arrived in Kansas on April 8th and that is my "last updated" date. My first delivery window was April 22-April 28, my second ETA was May 17-May 30, my third ETA was May 26- June 1, my fourth ETA was May 27 - June 2, my fifth ETA was May 31 - June 6,my sixth ETA was June 6 - June 9 , seventh ETA was June 9 - June 16,my eight ETA was June 13 - June 16,my ninth ETA was June 14 - June 19 and now my current ETA is June 16 - June 22. The latest arrival date moved from June 6 to June 23. I don't think Ford is done yet. I tried contacting Ford via calls, emails and chats. I got one never heard before response your car is in transit currently its at the Ramp but it will arrive between X & Y date when used to asked them there are just two days left in Y day how will it arrive? They used to tell me oh it will and when it didn't arrive their response was ETA are subject to change. I was told by Ford support to talk to my dealer well he doesn't seem to know where it is. I even went that far to reach out to Elena Ford (Chief Experience Officer Ford) I have emailed her 3 times (once every week). Someone from her office finally got back to me and I was told that even they can't help me in this mess. I just asked her to atleast give me reason on why it keeps getting delayed they can't tell that too, the best they are willing to do is give me a call when my car is delivered . I am just extra worried because some few weeks ack at this forum had similar experience and his car was burnt on the rail car and they didn't informed him for weeks and then he was forced to get something off the lot. My color is cyber orange, they have discontinued cyber orange so if its damage or anything. Then I waited for nothing. I had enough time that I have gotten a Level 2 charger installed, got my accessories and even finished the paper work prior to car's arrival only the plate is left and rest is done.

You are right, as of now all automakers are experiencing delays. I have experienced both GM and Ford. I ordered a Cadillac Escalade in 2020 it showed up in 2023 a month after it was built and they gave me reasons for delay and I was also offered other colour and trim options, but since I was very specific with my order and there is a very limited amount of these made I had to wait 3 years. Plus I contacted GM's executives they personally replied to me and resolved my issue mean while I contacted Elena Ford she is the Chief Customer experience officer. I wrote her three emails one every week. I got a call from her office after I posted my experience on reddit mach e. Her office let alone resolve my issue, they couldn't even track my car and lmk about the whereabout. People who ordered in January/Febuaray are getting there car now, you can see that all over redit and here. I knew about the delays before ordering. But since my car is stuck at Ramp 6R people got their car built/shipped and delivered.
 
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Update: Just got my new ETA June 20- June 26. My latest delivery moved to June 30. My "last updated" remains the same April 8th. Ford have successfully delayed my delivery by 3 months now lets see how many to go. Next month will be my order's 15th Month.
 

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In case you are not aware I ordered my car on April 21st 2022. My order was accepted on 9 September 2022.
You have a dealer problem. Placing the order to dealer accepting the order shouldn’t be more than a week, not three months. What else about this order (not the delivery) is out of the ordinary?
 

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You have a dealer problem. Placing the order to dealer accepting the order shouldn’t be more than a week, not three months. What else about this order (not the delivery) is out of the ordinary?
Are you possibly suggesting the order priority was low when the dealer submitted it or that they had a one-car allocation for the year?
 

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Are you possibly suggesting the order priority was low when the dealer submitted it or that they had a one-car allocation for the year?
Possibly, but there’s something not apparent here. There was a 5 month or so gap between making the order and its acceptance. Normally that’s a 1 week or so process.
 
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You have a dealer problem. Placing the order to dealer accepting the order shouldn’t be more than a week, not three months. What else about this order (not the delivery) is out of the ordinary?
Its because I told him. I want 2023 Model at that time they were telling me that all 2022 model were being shipped as 2023. But there was a possibility I might end up with 2022 and since I requested it had to be 2023. They ordered it after the order banks opened in August 30th. BTW in my experience this isn't out of ordinary. I have seen many people with order being accepted after 1 or 2 month over here and the redit forum.
 
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Are you possibly suggesting the order priority was low when the dealer submitted it or that they had a one-car allocation for the year?
They did had some allocation issue not sure what exactly was the issue, but they also had 3 orders along with mine aligned. That could be a possibility. But I believe it is because I wanted a 23 model and the banks opened in August.
 

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Its because I told him. I want 2023 Model at that time they were telling me that all 2022 model were being shipped as 2023. But there was a possibility I might end up with 2022 and since I requested it had to be 2023. They ordered it after the order banks opened in August 30th. BTW in my experience this isn't out of ordinary. I have seen many people with order being accepted after 1 or 2 month over here and the redit forum.
Ok, the delay between you placing the order and its acceptance was your doing as you wanted a 2023 model, that's quite understandable but also places your actual order in September and not April. That part isn't really Ford's fault and eliminates one of the mysteries about this order. I was simply wondering if the order somehow was fubared from the start. Apparently not.

That brings us back to the shipping delay with your car showing still in KC. If it's really there, there are a few possibilities (nothing new to follow):

  1. Autorack shortage for shipments to Canada (and elsewhere)
  2. The car is buried in a location that makes it difficult to get at it for shipment
  3. The car has been damaged and the RR company isn't willing to accept it
  4. The priority code for the car is low.
  5. A combination of the above.
There is a definite ongoing autorack shortage, a personnel issue, and no short-term solution. All I can say is that my car sat in an intermediate location for over 6 weeks before finally being moved on to the dealer. It had a shipping time of almost exactly 13 weeks. Which means it sat in KC for about 4 weeks.

It was suggested earlier that you ask your dealer to contact their Ford inventory rep to get a better answer as to the car's status. Hopefully, the car is actually moving but just not showing on the vis reports.
 
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Ok, the delay between you placing the order and its acceptance was your doing as you wanted a 2023 model, that's quite understandable but also places your actual order in September and not April. That part isn't really Ford's fault and eliminates one of the mysteries about this order. I was simply wondering if the order somehow was fubared from the start. Apparently not.

That brings us back to the shipping delay with your car showing still in KC. If it's really there, there are a few possibilities (nothing new to follow):

  1. Autorack shortage for shipments to Canada (and elsewhere)
  2. The car is buried in a location that makes it difficult to get at it for shipment
  3. The car has been damaged and the RR company isn't willing to accept it
  4. The priority code for the car is low.
  5. A combination of the above.
There is a definite ongoing autorack shortage, a personnel issue, and no short-term solution. All I can say is that my car sat in an intermediate location for over 6 weeks before finally being moved on to the dealer. It had a shipping time of almost exactly 13 weeks. Which means it sat in KC for about 4 weeks.

It was suggested earlier that you ask your dealer to contact their Ford inventory rep to get a better answer as to the car's status. Hopefully, the car is actually moving but just not showing on the vis reports.
I am already aware of the fact that the gap months is definitely my fault. That is why I have been very patient till my car was shipped to Ramp 6R, once it arrived there on April 8th I already knew its a dead end, that is why I didn't complain on being pushed back by a month. I was fine till 4 ETAs but then they keep increasing to now 11 ETAs and counting and yet no updates. My car is at the Ramp since past 12 WEEKS. The part that is driving me nuts and concerning me is:

1.People who ordered their car in month of January/February are getting their cars since April and as we speak. 2 of those orders have been shipped to Canada. Meanwhile my car relax at the Ramp.

2. My car is CYBER ORANGE (the colour is discontinued) so if its damaged then its pretty hard to find that color with same specs and trim.

3. Even though the months gap could be on me but we can't deny the fact that its been 14 weeks since its shipped and 12 WEEKS at the RAMP. Plus from Ford support, to my dealer,to his manager and even the Ford executives. None of them know the current status and exactly wth is going on at the Ramp.
 

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I am already aware of the fact that the gap months is definitely my fault. That is why I have been very patient till my car was shipped to Ramp 6R, once it arrived there on April 8th I already knew its a dead end, that is why I didn't complain on being pushed back by a month. I was fine till 4 ETAs but then they keep increasing to now 11 ETAs and counting and yet no updates. My car is at the Ramp since past 12 WEEKS. The part that is driving me nuts and concerning me is:

1.People who ordered their car in month of January/February are getting their cars since April and as we speak. 2 of those orders have been shipped to Canada. Meanwhile my car relax at the Ramp.

2. My car is CYBER ORANGE (the colour is discontinued) so if its damaged then its pretty hard to find that color with same specs and trim.

3. Even though the months gap could be on me but we can't deny the fact that its been 14 weeks since its shipped and 12 WEEKS at the RAMP. Plus from Ford support, to my dealer,to his manager and even the Ford executives. None of them know the current status and exactly wth is going on at the Ramp.
Ford Canada might be who you need to talk to. And your dealer needs to get answers from their Ford reps.

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