Blue Cruise Dangerous Experience!

[dj_stang]

I suppose everyone blaming OP would be ok with a hypothetical BC trying to kill you at every opportunity because “well you’re supposed to be in control!!” ?. You sound like Tesla stans.

I haven’t encountered a situation like OP’s, and I do pay attention, but it’s completely valid to complain about the system’s performance IF the system is unsafe.

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[Auto Motive]

BC1.0 has been nice but it’s not trustworthy and it’s dangerous. I was driving back from Baltimore to Raleigh 10 days ago and BC canceled, immediately terminating steering control, skipping past drive assist hands on the wheel part. That is a crazy dangerous condition that should NEVER happen. I would have been toast if the error occurred midway though a bend in the highway… being ready to take the wheel is not enough time to prevent a crash with an error like this in a turn. I seriously question the use of auto pilot tech by manufacturers. What happened to fail safe systems?
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Glad things didnt get worse. I do not use Blue Cruise since ours doesnt center car in lane but more to the right. Our 2023 model y performs suburb with the last update. I'll use it at nite and in severe rain. Adaptive cruise in both are used exclusively with Y being more responsive with cars in front of us. I would like to see a better distance metric in under 50mph.

 

[A-A-Ron]

BC1.0 has been nice but it’s not trustworthy and it’s dangerous. I was driving back from Baltimore to Raleigh 10 days ago and BC canceled, immediately terminating steering control, skipping past drive assist hands on the wheel part. That is a crazy dangerous condition that should NEVER happen. I would have been toast if the error occurred midway though a bend in the highway… being ready to take the wheel is not enough time to prevent a crash with an error like this in a turn. I seriously question the use of auto pilot tech by manufacturers. What happened to fail safe systems?

Just curious - when the computer gets into a situation where it's lost its navigation cues and doesn't know what to do - what do you want it to do besides immediately hand control back to you?

 

[RickMachE]

Just drove 4,700 miles, much of it with BlueCruise handsfree.

Did the car react at times in ways I didn't love? Yes. Was I prepared for that? Yes. Would I take a non-BlueCruise car on a 4,700 mile drive? No.

 

[Frankis843]

I do not trust it and will never use it.

Understandable, hard to trust something you aren't even willing to try.

 

[Spike]

It is there to assist you, that is it. You have to be ready to take over in a second. It is not autonomous self driving.

BC1.0 has been nice but it’s not trustworthy and it’s dangerous. I was driving back from Baltimore to Raleigh 10 days ago and BC canceled, immediately terminating steering control, skipping past drive assist hands on the wheel part. That is a crazy dangerous condition that should NEVER happen. I would have been toast if the error occurred midway though a bend in the highway… being ready to take the wheel is not enough time to prevent a crash with an error like this in a turn. I seriously question the use of auto pilot tech by manufacturers. What happened to fail safe systems?

 

[Stanmckinney]

I tried it twice and hated it. So I have tried it.

 

[BMT1071]

I suppose everyone blaming OP would be ok with a hypothetical BC trying to kill you at every opportunity because “well you’re supposed to be in control!!” ?. You sound like Tesla stans.

I haven’t encountered a situation like OP’s, and I do pay attention, but it’s completely valid to complain about the system’s performance IF the system is unsafe.

Except that's not what happened. It's another case of pearl-clutching what-ifs. Kinda like a lot of the PaaK/key fob posts back in the early days.

 

[jpiazza67]

It is there to assist you, that is it. You have to be ready to take over in a second. It is not autonomous self driving.

I already know how to use BC responsibility. It happened to me on relatively straight highway, and not a problem because I was attentive. But, what if it were a curve? Let me put it this way… you are driving your car through a highway bend, the kind that BC1 might ping pong back and forth on. BC is off, you’re driving. Now take your hands off the wheel for 1/2 a second. There is no way to stay in your lane.

 

[Deleted member 16048]

I suppose everyone blaming OP would be ok with a hypothetical BC trying to kill you at every opportunity because “well you’re supposed to be in control!!” ?. You sound like Tesla stans.

I haven’t encountered a situation like OP’s, and I do pay attention, but it’s completely valid to complain about the system’s performance IF the system is unsafe.

I already know how to use BC responsibility. It happened to me on relatively straight highway, and not a problem because I was attentive. But, what if it were a curve? Let me put it this way… you are driving your car through a highway bend, the kind that BC1 might ping pong back and forth on. BC is off, you’re driving. Now take your hands off the wheel for 1/2 a second. There is no way to stay in your lane.

Not actually since I have experience a situation that the OP was in. Just two days ago actually. It was due to the sunlight which kicked it out hard on a bridge while turning. Guess what though, I was prepared like I was supposed to be and it wasn't an issue or "dangerous" at all.

Not to mention, there are other systems at play like collision avoidance, and automatic emergency braking that can intervene if they have to. Probably forgot about those huh?

Our point, is that you're being an alarmist and not taking responsibility. If you use the system as intended, it is not "dangerous" or "unsafe" at all. Thinking it is "Auto pilot" or automatic driving IS considered incorrect use. BlueCruise or even Teslas Auto Pilot / FSD Beta are no where close to L3.

 

[JSW]

In all fairness, it is called hands-free driving (not hands-hover-an inch-away-just-in-case driving).

 

[woody]

If you do not like BC or want to use it, don't use it.
If you don't enjoy driving your MME, sell it and buy something else for your chauffer to drive.

 

[DYohn]

The easy answer is don't rely on our early version of hands-free driving. When my BC activates and tells me it can be hands-free, I don't care and I keep my hands on the damn wheel. It's a car, not a train.

Now you kids get off my lawn.

 

[SaintPaulMustangMach-E_GT]

My worst experience was the system following the old lines.
Blue cruise never disengaged but did change 3 lanes in about 10 seconds.

The issue happened as we went through a prior construction zone, new lane lines had bee freshly painted. The old lines had been sand blasted away.

Unfortunately Blue Cruise followed the sand blasted markings instead of the nice bright and very straight lines.

 

[RickMachE]

One of the big challenges with BC issue reports is that human beings have to guess what it was doing. I have found in thousands of miles of BC driving that what I thought it was doing often turns out to be different when I think about it. I can tell you that when the lines disappear (painted over, ground out), that it will search for lines, and then gravitate to them. I have used handsfree mode in construction zones, including where they move the lanes over, except when it crosses to the other side of the interstate (BC sees this and disables handsfree).

On my last trip, I experienced a bunch of half black / half white lines. Apparently this is supposed to help the white lines stand out. BC doesn't think so.

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