Charge % @100% but range @ 195

[RickMachE]

It knows the weather...

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[scubauke]

Right which is why I qualified it with "unless you're like that dude who drives 250 miles a day". Are people buying EV's without reliable L2 charging at home/work? I literally have yet to used a fast charger once after 5 months of ownership.

Not sure why you are disparaging people who drive more miles in a day than you do. I also mostly charge in my garage, but do take my mach e on weekend adventures that require charging at charging stations. I have probably charged at a station 5 to 6 times in 7 months. So it is important to have some gauge on how far you can expect to go before stopping to charge. You do have to plan ahead to find charging stations on your route. Again why it I important to anticipate the affect of temperature on milage and why it would be helpful to have guide on the relationship between temperature and milage.

 

[kevC]

Not sure why you are disparaging people who drive more miles in a day than you do. I also mostly charge in my garage, but do take my mach e on weekend adventures that require charging at charging stations. I have probably charged at a station 5 to 6 times in 7 months. So it is important to have some gauge on how far you can expect to go before stopping to charge. You do have to plan ahead to find charging stations on your route. Again why it I important to anticipate the affect of temperature on milage and why it would be helpful to have guide on the relationship between temperature and milage.

Where did I disparage anyone? I understand the need to accurately gauge your range when you’re on road trips or if you drive a lot. Which is why I qualified it to people who don’t drive a lot like myself. I think you’re missing my point, I’m just saying GOM is meaningless, just check your state charge and act accordingly.

 

[SeattleMachE]

I don’t understand why this is such a confusing concept for people. ICE vehicles give an estimated range on a tank of gas, but in reality that estimated range could easily double with nonstop highway driving vs stop and go city driving. ICE vehicles give an average MPG that can rapidly increase/decrease if you have a lead foot or not.

Isn’t this conceptually the same with EVs?

 

[scubauke]

Where did I disparage anyone? I understand the need to accurately gauge your range when you’re on road trips or if you drive a lot. Which is why I qualified it to people who don’t drive a lot like myself. I think you’re missing my point, I’m just saying GOM is meaningless, just check your state charge and act accordingly.

Not trying to start a argument. Just looking for an estimate on affect of temp to range. What temperature was the estimate of 100% charge for an extended range battery being 300 miles. Was that calculated at 60, 70, 80 or 90 degrees. What percent decrease can be expected for each 10 degrees of lower temperature from where the range was calculated.

 

[woody]

I disagree.

Every coach has always told me to “give it 110%”

Are you calling them liars?

so ask those coaches how to get more than 100%. If I can do this on my investments, I would be filthy rich ( 7-10% makes me very happy). They are not liars, just not very scientific. They are just trying to improve your performance (but you cannot perform more than 100%).

 

[sukhoi_584th]

I think it would be nice if the GOM also gave a range based off the current driving session based off maybe the prior 5-20 mi of driving. I want an accurate estimate based off the current conditions and mi/kWh.

When I'm cruising on the highway during the day I don't want to have to be considering how the GOM was impacted by running errands last night in the cold with the heat blasting because it was a short drive and I didn't care about range.

 

[Zassi]

I think it would be nice if the GOM also gave a range based off the current driving session based off maybe the prior 5-20 mi of driving. I want an accurate estimate based off the current conditions and mi/kWh.

When I'm cruising on the highway during the day I don't want to have to be considering how the GOM was impacted by running errands last night in the cold with the heat blasting because it was a short drive and I didn't care about range.

It's seems to do just that, atleast by what I've been following it for the past 12000km's (or ~7500miles for you weird people behind the ocean ). What I find extremely interesting is that by even without any updates(and agains all the angst), GOM seems to be quite accurate, atleast when I compare it to my older BMW's. When we hit -25°C(~-13°F) last week, the figure was quite depressing because with my driving(and heating) habits 80% SoC gave me only 160 km's(or ~100miles) which I know to be quite spot on. I really wish I could see those ~200 miles of range some of you get even on "winter"

 

[Awmustang]

Mach E garaged so temp > 52. I get where you are coming from but the suddenness of the change from summer to mild winters ( in la) was shocking.

This may be true, but your car has access to the internet and knows what the temperature is OUTSIDE the garage, you know the place you'll actually be driving and using those miles. So yes, while it may be 52 where your car is parked, it knows it won't be 52 when it's driven.

I guess we know why Tesla uses rated range rather than GOM now.

 

[bshaw]

Because so many people can't process the GOM numbers being lower than their expectations, Ford should have done it with a graphic representation instead of discrete numbers.
The graphic bar would have no numbers, but just hash marks with an E at one end, and F at the other end. This would comfort those people used to the gauges presented on an ICE car.

Similarly, your available range would be displayed only by using the nav system to show which chargers you could be guaranteed reach based on current SoC, driving history and outside temps, not a numerical mile value.

There could be an "advanced" setting that turns back on the GOM and numerical SoC for those that can handle the information without losing their minds.

 

[RickMachE]

This morning mine showed 243 miles at 100%! ?

 

[kevC]

Because so many people can't process the GOM numbers being lower than their expectations, Ford should have done it with a graphic representation instead of discrete numbers.
The graphic bar would have no numbers, but just hash marks with an E at one end, and F at the other end. This would comfort those people used to the gauges presented on an ICE car.

Similarly, your available range would be displayed only by using the nav system to show which chargers you could be guaranteed reach based on current SoC, driving history and outside temps, not a numerical mile value.

There could be an "advanced" setting that turns back on the GOM and numerical SoC for those that can handle the information without losing their minds.

Just get rid of the GOM and keep the battery representation. Everyone intuitively understands battery life from using their phones. The GOM is like if phones' main display of state of charge was "hours left". It's just dumb.

 

[Awmustang]

Just get rid of the GOM and keep the battery representation. Everyone intuitively understands battery life from using their phones. The GOM is like if phones' main display of state of charge was "hours left". It's just dumb.

Indeed... though I can get an hours left from my Pixel.... it's wildly inaccurate though so I never pay attention to it.

 

[kevC]

Indeed... though I can get an hours left from my Pixel.... it's wildly inaccurate though so I never pay attention to it.

And that's exactly what we should be doing, not paying attention to it. What the OP is doing is basically like saying "they said in the Apple event that this iPhone has a 10 hour battery life, I've been streaming 'Bonanza' for 4 hours on full brightness and it says there is 10% left, will it go down to negative percentage since I still have 6 hours left on this 'Bonanza' marathon?"

 

[RockwallRick]

Not able to charge the car right now due to driveway resurfacing but I will report back with my 90 % charge results this week. Our forecast is for temps in the 80’s so I will be expecting a good number!

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