Continue using ford mobile charger or buy a wall charger?

[CarGuy11]

I got the new Ford Mobile Charger with black handle. Anyone having issues with this one?

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[dtbaker61]

I got the new Ford Mobile Charger with black handle. Anyone having issues with this one?

I like sticking with 240 outlet and mobile charger so I can use 240v outlet to backfeed and use Mach-e to power my house.

 

[Madtroniks]

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[woody]

my Ford Mobile charged about 80,000 miles worth of driving with no problems.... just recently started showing orange light and slow charge, so I think it is on the way out...

I've ordered a new replacement. Went super cheap with a $158 Vevor to see how long it will last.

So......the big question: why go cheap? Are you planning on abandoning EVs?
I have used a GM (Volt/Bolt) L1 and a Clipper Creek EVSE for over 7 years now (granted only 50,000+ miles total) with no problem. I realize the Clipper Creek (even though Clipper Creek [now Enphase] tech. is in all EVSEs) is not cool, but it it works. You know, takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

footnote: I have an AC coupled, bimodal PV system which is also frowned upon by solar sales/installers (and very trying to find and get a solar certified expert to install) to clarify my ________(fill in the blank).
You have been using it for a month plus (assumed). Works?

 

[Guss-E 2021]

Puget Sound Energy has discounts - pse-marketplace.com is you are a PSE customer. Here is a great choice:

I paid $749 for mine back in 2021 by way of comparison.

 

[Guss-E 2021]

Per comments in the forum, the mobile charger is not truly intended for every day use. I also realized that if it failed, I had no alternative means to charge.

My Chargepoint Homeflex provides faster charging and remote control via Wi-Fi and the app. The app also lets me track my electrical charging usage.

I opted to go with a wall plug rather than hard wired. In that way, if the Homeflex fails, I can simply unplug it and fall back on the mobile charger.

 

[dtbaker61]

So......the big question: why go cheap? Are you planning on abandoning EVs?
I have used a GM (Volt/Bolt) L1 and a Clipper Creek EVSE for over 7 years now (granted only 50,000+ miles total) with no problem. I realize the Clipper Creek (even though Clipper Creek [now Enphase] tech. is in all EVSEs) is not cool, but it it works. You know, takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

footnote: I have an AC coupled, bimodal PV system which is also frowned upon by solar sales/installers (and very trying to find and get a solar certified expert to install) to clarify my ________(fill in the blank).
You have been using it for a month plus (assumed). Works?

I went cheap with the mobile charger and it has heavier wire than the Ford did, so why not. it's been working fine

your solar equipment may be a different issue. most local ahj and utlities require UL listing including rapid shutdown if grid tied. certified installers will not touch the job if it is not able to be permitted and inspected or they risk their license

 

[woody]

I went cheap with the mobile charger and it has heavier wire than the Ford did, so why not. it's been working fine

your solar equipment may be a different issue. most local ahj and utlities require UL listing including rapid shutdown if grid tied. certified installers will not touch the job if it is not able to be permitted and inspected or they risk their license

It(solar) is no problem if you hire a trained, certified and knowledgeable solar expert (few and far between- therein is the actual problem). Most solar "installers" are unfortunately simple solar panel installers, looking to take advantage of consumers (ex. leasing panels), and nothing more. They are ruled by the bottom line and they still think they can run their business after the oil industry model!!!!Ha Ha.
Most "utilities" fight residential solar(as is the case here in Colorado). They dictate to the regulatory agencies instead of vice versa(long history there).
Most consumers simply want to install a system that may have some benefit(for them and the environment) and are not interested in going to war with the utility company.
There are no legitimate grass roots consumer based/benefiting organizations(those that exist are self serving, as with all tax exempt "charitables') or professional organizations which support residential solar. The few(professional organizations) that exist do not really advocate for residential solar.
I agree that most solar installers will not touch the job. There is work involved, for which they have no interest, they do not have the capital to fight the utility company, and they lack the expertise.

My install was a battle royal. Took about a decade. And the war continues.
Too much Irish heritage.

Glad to here the Vevor is working. Hope it continues.

footnote: the utility company's (here in CO) latest resistance strategy has been to refuse to install the meter for months, even over a year in some cases. Try to run a business with that large a time span waiting for final payment.

 

[nvabill]

I've been using included Ford Mobile charger (32A) to charge Mach-E for the last 18 month.
It was ok, once in a while it turns amber, meaning some power throttling. I typically fix it by replugging.

Should I expect it will die soon and install a wall charger? Or is it ok to use more?

I see a good price for Wallbox Pulsar Plus 40-amp EV ($250), and I am thinking of switching.

Buy yourself a decent wall charger.

 

[dtbaker61]

It(solar) is no problem if you hire a trained, certified and knowledgeable solar expert (few and far between- therein is the actual problem). Most solar "installers" are unfortunately simple solar panel installers, looking to take advantage of consumers (ex. leasing panels), and nothing more. They are ruled by the bottom line and they still think they can run their business after the oil industry model!!!!Ha Ha.
Most "utilities" fight residential solar(as is the case here in Colorado). They dictate to the regulatory agencies instead of vice versa(long history there).
Most consumers simply want to install a system that may have some benefit(for them and the environment) and are not interested in going to war with the utility company.
There are no legitimate grass roots consumer based/benefiting organizations(those that exist are self serving, as with all tax exempt "charitables') or professional organizations which support residential solar. The few(professional organizations) that exist do not really advocate for residential solar.
I agree that most solar installers will not touch the job. There is work involved, for which they have no interest, they do not have the capital to fight the utility company, and they lack the expertise.

My install was a battle royal. Took about a decade. And the war continues.
Too much Irish heritage.

Glad to here the Vevor is working. Hope it continues.

footnote: the utility company's (here in CO) latest resistance strategy has been to refuse to install the meter for months, even over a year in some cases. Try to run a business with that large a time span waiting for final payment.

so..... I'm not going to dive into the 'whys' of how difficult the Homeowner-Solar-Utility interaction is other than say the most Utilities nationwide use regulatory agencies to exclude distributed PV co-gen connections because they are stuck in old monopolistic business models rather than actually trying to solve clean energy distribution and Grid modernization with 'micro' (neighborhood) and 'nano' (single account) grids.

on the positive side... there are now a growing number of hybrid all-in-one inverters with automatic internal transfer switches that are fully UL certified and rapid-shutdown compliant. For the educated DIYer, or knowledgable Solar installation/service company, it is getting a lot easier to design and install truely hybrid systems with battery backup for critical loads that is all-automatic ... generally running around $15k-25k for all the equipment and electrical work needed to separate critical loads to a separate sub-panel and put the hybrid inverter w internal transfer switch in the middle.

on the cheap end, not for the faint of heart, our Mach-e can be used as an 'emergency generator' to run critical loads for less than $1000 in materials IF you have a NEMA 14-50 outlet..... THIS is why I (personally) prefer to continue to use a Mobile charger plugged into 14-50 rather than hardwire EVSE. I want to be able to unplug the charger; disconnect from Grid; and plug in an inverter to power my critical loads.

 

[CarGuy11]

so..... I'm not going to dive into the 'whys' of how difficult the Homeowner-Solar-Utility interaction is other than say the most Utilities nationwide use regulatory agencies to exclude distributed PV co-gen connections because they are stuck in old monopolistic business models rather than actually trying to solve clean energy distribution and Grid modernization with 'micro' (neighborhood) and 'nano' (single account) grids.

on the positive side... there are now a growing number of hybrid all-in-one inverters with automatic internal transfer switches that are fully UL certified and rapid-shutdown compliant. For the educated DIYer, or knowledgable Solar installation/service company, it is getting a lot easier to design and install truely hybrid systems with battery backup for critical loads that is all-automatic ... generally running around $15k-25k for all the equipment and electrical work needed to separate critical loads to a separate sub-panel and put the hybrid inverter w internal transfer switch in the middle.

on the cheap end, not for the faint of heart, our Mach-e can be used as an 'emergency generator' to run critical loads for less than $1000 in materials IF you have a NEMA 14-50 outlet..... THIS is why I (personally) prefer to continue to use a Mobile charger plugged into 14-50 rather than hardwire EVSE. I want to be able to unplug the charger; disconnect from Grid; and plug in an inverter to power my critical loads.

How do you get Mach-E to be used as a generator?

 

[dtbaker61]

How do you get Mach-E to be used as a generator?

export from 12v connectors (up to 1500watts), external inverter, feed to AC loads directly.... NOT to the Grid, but 'as a generator' disconnected from the grid.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...hrough-power-outage-with-flying-colors.37965/

 

[zvez]

check with your local utility to see if they offer an EVSE (charger) at a discount

 

[dtbaker61]

check with your local utility to see if they offer an EVSE (charger) at a discount

My local utility does offer rebates, but only selected (very expensive) brands/models.... in hopes of controlling when you can charge by requiring the move to a smart meter to put you on a time-of-day rateplan....

It ends up being a bad deal if you also have Solar.

Besides I don't WANT a hardwired charger, I prefer to have the outlet, I already have an outlet, and use a cheap (<$200!) Mobile charger at 32amps.

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