Decided to cancelled Mach E for a Model Y

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If I were to wager a prop bet, it would be that model Y has the range advantage.
As we see with Alex/Autos real world test, the Model Y was lower than posted and you really had to baby it to get close to rated range. This makes sense since has more wind resistance, heavier than Model 3 which is its twin other than body shape and weight.

I'd expect the Mach-E to be like the Kona-EV/Niro-EV which both maker there rated range in real world tests. So the Mach-E and Model-Y will likely be near identical in real world range with Mach-E making its rated range and Model Y a bit under its rated range in real world.

The Mach-E is going to be a much better car though. Better looking and better tech as the Tesla's including the Model 3/Y are actually dated, a near five year old design and no improvements in all the issues of single screen and limited controls, visibility etc. Mach-E much more the luxury vehicle and in many ways safer due to the Ford Co-Pilot 360's more mature safety features.
 

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As we see with Alex/Autos real world test, the Model Y was lower than posted and you really had to baby it to get close to rated range. This makes sense since has more wind resistance, heavier than Model 3 which is its twin other than body shape and weight.

I'd expect the Mach-E to be like the Kona-EV/Niro-EV which both maker there rated range in real world tests. So the Mach-E and Model-Y will likely be near identical in real world range with Mach-E making its rated range and Model Y a bit under its rated range in real world.

The Mach-E is going to be a much better car though. Better looking and better tech as the Tesla's including the Model 3/Y are actually dated, a near five year old design and no improvements in all the issues of single screen and limited controls, visibility etc. Mach-E much more the luxury vehicle and in many ways safer due to the Ford Co-Pilot 360's more mature safety features.
So what’s the wager? $20?
 

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As we see with Alex/Autos real world test, the Model Y was lower than posted and you really had to baby it to get close to rated range. This makes sense since has more wind resistance, heavier than Model 3 which is its twin other than body shape and weight.
What's weird is that the Out of Spec/i1Tesla range test, they did 212mi @70 mph at 270Wh/mi (3.7mi per kWh) and still had 22% left.

That's a big difference than Alex on Autos test. I find both sources reputable so I guess it goes to show that YMMV.

 

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I am Looking for Range - Then Tesla Y with 199 miles winter / battery 72.5 kWh versus Mach E with 90kWh is a No Brainer !
Real World Range test will soon ( August ? ) gives us the answer
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I can not resign myself to buy Tesla ...
For sure some people feel that way.

For me, I don't go through life with such, not sure of best word here, animosity or anger or hatred (?) against products and or other owners. See this with some phone manufacturers also ;) I keep an open mind and make the best decision I can for me.

Besides, once a person buys and gets off these fan sites (both MME and other EV sites) and just enjoy these awesome new EVs, all this drama will fade away. Just the perspective from the OP of this thread. Life is too short to have a mental list of products "I could never buy".
 

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For sure some people feel that way.

For me, I don't go through life with such, not sure of best word here, animosity or anger or hatred (?) against products and or other owners. See this with some phone manufacturers also ;) I keep an open mind and make the best decision I can for me.

Besides, once a person buys and gets off these fan sites (both MME and other EV sites) and just enjoy these awesome new EVs, all this drama will fade away. Just the perspective from the OP of this thread. Life is too short to have a mental list of products "I could never buy".
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It is not a question of judging a product, simply personally I do not like, am not a fan of the look and remain "fearful" of the after-sales service to which we can claim even more in France ... Not the feeling that these vehicles match me.
 

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For sure some people feel that way.

For me, I don't go through life with such, not sure of best word here, animosity or anger or hatred (?) against products and or other owners. See this with some phone manufacturers also ;) I keep an open mind and make the best decision I can for me.

Besides, once a person buys and gets off these fan sites (both MME and other EV sites) and just enjoy these awesome new EVs, all this drama will fade away. Just the perspective from the OP of this thread. Life is too short to have a mental list of products "I could never buy".
Exactly! I have been enjoying the Model 3 and have not been on the boards much since I bought it. Part of me figured life is short and I can always sell it if I am not happy. Plus I wanted to experience an EV sooner rather than later in case COVID-19 came after me. 😉 The Model 3 is setting the bar for me and I can now just sit back and monitor all the new EVs coming out and make an informed decision in the future. I always tell my friends that I want to try/own many different cars before I get stuck driving a golf cart in a retirement community.
 

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Nothing to do, I can not resign myself to buy Tesla ...
I'm glad I did buy the Tesla so I wouldn't always be wondering. Plus Tesla gets credit for pioneering the EV and nice to be part of helping Tesla succeed, being part of all the PR hoopla over the 400,000 reservations in two days thing in 2016 and then helping Tesla hit profit/volume goals with a purchase in 2019. I feel let down on the basic safeties that Ford does has done a good job with in Co-Pilot 360 and some other issues.

So now get to do the same with Ford going EV.

Fun way to use buying power.

Based on my experience, I would likely not buy another Tesla.
 

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Attention let's be clear, I do not criticize those who bought Tesla and especially not Tesla for taking the risk of investing massively in EV, we must congratulate them for having been pioneers and for having moved the lines, opening other perspectives to more traditionalist manufacturers. I just don't feel comfortable with the look and the service in France, but it's strictly personal.

;) ;) ;)
 

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Model Y is easily gonna be the most popular Tesla. There are probably 4-5 Model 3s within two blocks of me now and that'll likely double with the Y. After driving an Outback for 5 years, I don't want to have the same car as everyone else anymore.

I am leaning towards telling the dealer to change my reservation from Premium AWD ER to GT.

1) Wife thinks GT looks better
2) 3.X seconds 0-60 will forever be quick
3) 98% of my drives are within 200mi of my house so range isn't too worrisome
4) 235 width tires makes sense

My hesitation is because

a) more range is always better on road trips
b) 5.5s 0-60 isn't THAT slow
c) GT doesn't come out til Spring 2021
d) GT options are gonna cost me $$
I have the Jaguar I-Pace in the garage for only 6 days and I'm not looking back, but I still love the look and performance of the Mach E GT. I was thinking Grabber Blue or whatever the undisclosed color will be. Alas, it will be a curious outside looking in thing for me going forward. Obviously, I highly recommend the GT version for you!

Good luck in either case!
 

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I have the Jaguar I-Pace in the garage for only 6 days and I'm not looking back, but I still love the look and performance of the Mach E GT. I was thinking Grabber Blue or whatever the undisclosed color will be. Alas, it will be a curious outside looking in thing for me going forward. Obviously, I highly recommend the GT version for you!

Good luck in either case!
Not looking back either. Was that your I-Pace in my I-Pace's rear view mirror? ;)
 



 








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