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[ChasingCoral]

actually, that was still going to go on until covid. Certain states even would not allow. So again not that ford could not have done it, but there is this thing covid going around and each state is different. So instead of doing that they did the mache roadshow, the best ford could do.

Total covid 19 cluster $%#^
There are threads on this from the past talking about this also the test drive will be delayed to covid.
But most reasonable people can understand that. Guess some just can't comprehend what happened.

At this point I’m thrilled Ford is prioritizing customer cars over FCTP. I’ll be glad to test drive my own car.

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[portlandg]

At this point I’m thrilled Ford is prioritizing customer cars over FCTP. I’ll be glad to test drive my own car.

Me too ??

 

[trutolife27]

I understand that, and think the change is reasonable. My only point was that Ford failed to maintain 100% of the promise as you claimed. That promise is still on their FAQ despite it being 2021 and no way for them to keep it.

To me, the roadshow was a joke effort, only covering the coasts, and the closest destination over 700 miles away. In some ways, if anything bringing it up if anything is like adding salt to the wound. You are better off not using that as an excuse for a failed promise.

Error its 99.9% Act of God or act of epidemic ford could not meet the promise. IS that better? hope it helps you sleep at night, my friend. Yep, ford should of went back and put all that there in the fine print I will pass that on. Hey, Bill ford next time can you put it states won't allow because of an epidemic that is killings thousands for the people that can't understand the simplicity of the situation at hand.

 

[c max]

I remember back in March, April, even into May that I could only buy a single roll of toilet paper at any one time, and had to get up at 5:00 am to get to the store for "senior hours", I think I can wait even an extra month or two for my new mach e.....also here in NJ we lost our $5000 incentive due to the Covid delay, oh well.....

 

[DaveRuns]

You and the other guys did a tremendous job in keeping us mere mortals entertained and informed. I don't think I would have lasted on this epic journey without your help. I, for one, will be forever grateful. I loved this car from the outset. Knew I had made the right decision when I saw it in the flesh and have been (and still am) prepared to wait for the car I WANT. A lot of people on here are saying that they had received delivery confirmations from Ford and that the dates tally with the ETA end date on the tracker. I am hoping that this is true for this side of the pond as well as my eta end date is 2021/02/07 which I hope means that it will be shipped on the Grande New York that leaves Veracruz on 2021/01/06 which is due to offload in Southampton on 2021/01/27. If this is the case then after 9 months and the uncertainty of covid I have only 5/6 weeks to go. If Ford pull this off it will be a remarkable achievement. Once again, many thanks to you all.

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[DaveRuns]

At this point I’m thrilled Ford is prioritizing customer cars over FCTP. I’ll be glad to test drive my own car.

I'm with you on this. I think I would actually prefer to 'test-drive' my own car. In fact, thinking back when I purchased my Accord in 2015, I test-drove the very car I drove off the lot. Fine by me. I thank Ford for prioritizing customer vehicles over dealer cars.

 

[timbop]

My only point was that Ford failed to maintain 100% of the promise as you claimed.

If you have kids, have you ever not been able to follow through on something you told them due to circumstances beyond your control? Ever have to work late, or go out of town, or have a sudden expense or problem that torpedoed what you fully intended to do? Kids/adolescents don't understand that, but that is the real world that adults inhabit.

The "promise" you are talking about was published 5 months before the world shutdown due to Covid-19. Please reread that sentence: the WORLD shutdown huge sectors of the economy AFTER that schedule was published. In the end Ford made up most of that ground, but interim milestones were missed. Ford had to choose between shipping of demo cars or customer units, and on balance they chose to miss the less important of two targets. In balance delivering customer obligations seems the better choice, given that those demo units would just sit on lots 99% of the time waiting for a test drive. So, while technically missing a milestone they have met the greater goal.

You may be waiting to convert a reservation to an order, but Ford is correctly prioritizing delivering cars to customers that ordered a car. Until you order, you aren't a customer you're a prospect.

 

[jlauro]

If you have kids, have you ever not been able to follow through on something you told them due to circumstances beyond your control? Ever have to work late, or go out of town, or have a sudden expense or problem that torpedoed what you fully intended to do? Kids/adolescents don't understand that, but that is the real world that adults inhabit.

The "promise" you are talking about was published 5 months before the world shutdown due to Covid-19. Please reread that sentence: the WORLD shutdown huge sectors of the economy AFTER that schedule was published. In the end Ford made up most of that ground, but interim milestones were missed. Ford had to choose between shipping of demo cars or customer units, and on balance they chose to miss the less important of two targets. In balance delivering customer obligations seems the better choice, given that those demo units would just sit on lots 99% of the time waiting for a test drive. So, while technically missing a milestone they have met the greater goal.

Adults recognize that circumstances change beyond any one person or group's ability to control them, and they adapt accordingly. Children and Adolescents cling to the irrational position "but you PROMISED".

Not saying I never break a promise. That said, even if I break promise outside of my control, and then claim to have kept 100% of my promise (when I didn't despite trying), and then say others were worse then me because they failed to keep their promise because of Covid. The problem is not the breaking of the promise, but the claim that all promises were kept when they were not and failure to communicate (ie: Ford FAQ still has original broken promise). A proper parent admits when they make a mistake including a promise they were not able to keep. I am not saying Ford didn't do a great overall, only it's not proper to exaggerate they kept all promises and did that much better than other companies did with Covid.

 

[timbop]

Not saying I never break a promise. That said, even if I break promise outside of my control, and then claim to have kept 100% of my promise (when I didn't despite trying), and then say others were worse then me because they failed to keep their promise because of Covid. The problem is not the breaking of the promise, but the claim that all promises were kept when they were not and failure to communicate (ie: Ford FAQ still has original broken promise). A proper parent admits when they make a mistake including a promise they were not able to keep. I am not saying Ford didn't do a great overall, only it's not proper to exaggerate they kept all promises and did that much better than other companies did with Covid.

Fair enough - yes you're right they did miss a promise/target. Given that Chevy, VW, and countless others pushed back releases by 6 months to a year I would say that Ford did better than others. But yes, they did miss getting demos to dealers - and that does directly affect those who are waiting to drive the car before committing to an order. It also would be really nice to get to drive a demo sooner rather than my own car when it arrives.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Not saying I never break a promise. That said, even if I break promise outside of my control, and then claim to have kept 100% of my promise (when I didn't despite trying), and then say others were worse then me because they failed to keep their promise because of Covid. The problem is not the breaking of the promise, but the claim that all promises were kept when they were not and failure to communicate (ie: Ford FAQ still has original broken promise). A proper parent admits when they make a mistake including a promise they were not able to keep. I am not saying Ford didn't do a great overall, only it's not proper to exaggerate they kept all promises and did that much better than other companies did with Covid.

I guess I missed something. Where did Ford claim being 100% successful?

 

[jlauro]

I guess I missed something. Where did Ford claim being 100% successful?

Technically not Ford, but an insider.

As of right now. ford meet 100% promise. No one else this year did. It is truly amazing how ford did it. They lost 8 weeks back when covid started. 8 weeks and made it all up. OKTB was 3 weeks later but 53 mache have been sold in 2020.

 

[trutolife27]

I guess I missed something. Where did Ford claim being 100% successful?

they didn't I guess I over spoke and said 100%. Guess he is trying to prove a point it was not "as 100%". Just I know that it was out of their control to meet that one thing. Most people can see again why and what happened. But wait some, a few people did get a test drive. not all but a few people from different places were able to do a test drive. So then maybe it was that person's fault to not find out where and how to do that. If we are going to be vague one way and say well yeah things happened that ford couldn't control you being able to test drive also the same effect it was the person's fault not to do all they can in their power to find a way to test drive one at the few places that did allow. hmhmhmm.................

You know some people have to find the little simple small thing that was not as perfect as it should have been. that is one reason sometimes I'm like why even give out any info when you have to deal with petty people like this.
Just I need to find the smallest thing anything to complain about.
Don't like it don't buy it. you're still here then you must want it. So basically take how it was done and accept it or cry and don't.

there has been a lot more info I could post out in the general boards here I could but I don't because of people like this. Maybe there is a secret group that gets other intel that never gets put out here for that reason.

 

[JamieGeek]

they didn't I guess I over spoke and said 100%. Guess he is trying to prove a point it was not "as 100%". Just I know that it was out of their control to meet that one thing. Most people can see again why and what happened. But wait some, a few people did get a test drive. not all but a few people from different places were able to do a test drive. So then maybe it was that person's fault to not find out where and how to do that. If we are going to be vague one way and say well yeah things happened that ford couldn't control you being able to test drive also the same effect it was the person's fault not to do all they can in their power to find a way to test drive one at the few places that did allow. hmhmhmm.................

You know some people have to find the little simple small thing that was not as perfect as it should have been. that is one reason sometimes I'm like why even give out any info when you have to deal with petty people like this.
Just I need to find the smallest thing anything to complain about.
Don't like it don't buy it. you're still here then you must want it. So basically take how it was done and accept it or cry and don't.

there has been a lot more info I could post out in the general boards here I could but I don't because of people like this. Maybe there is a secret group that gets other intel that never gets put out here for that reason.

Oh man now I want to know the secret handshake!

 

[dbsb3233]

I understand that, and think the change is reasonable. My only point was that Ford failed to maintain 100% of the promise as you claimed. That promise is still on their FAQ despite it being 2021 and no way for them to keep it.

The promise for what, a test drive before deciding whether to complete your purchase? That's still intact. It may just be in the vehicle you ordered. You can always still say no to the purchase after test driving it.

As for the timing, I wouldn't call that a promise. That was just a good faith estimate. Those are always subject to be off.

 

[jparduhn70]

As of right now. ford meet 100% promise. No one else this year did. It is truly amazing how ford did it. They lost 8 weeks back when covid started. 8 weeks and made it all up. OKTB was 3 weeks later but 53 mache have been sold in 2020.

Yes, it's 53, not 5,300. But ford said late 2020 and they made that deadline. Brand new vehicle and it's a Bev. And ford got it done with all that is going on. Hummer announced delayed, ID4, delayed, Bronco delayed, can go on and on.

The vehicle we are all here for and ordered.......................On-time, we as consumers set hard estimate lines in our heads. I pass on what I could coral did his best and awesome job at trying to piece it together. Ron came in with his great and also hybrid.

Sorry, it didn't meet everyone's different guidelines. But the fact is 100% ford got it done and it has shocked the auto industry and been all over the news. Right now everything is getting ramped up and when the workers come back from a break with family they will still be working their ass off as quick as they can you give you a great product. All while covid is still going on.

Thanks for your perspective as always, @trutolife27.

I have to admit that I'm very happy that the original timeline for deliveries has only been delayed a short amount of time after the trainwreck that was 2020. With a build date of Tuesday, I'm very confident that I'll be sitting behind the wheel of my MME in 60 days or so, an early birthday present. ?

Congrats to the 53 people that got theirs, and to everyone that can expect theirs in the next couple weeks.

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