Don't wait to replace the 12v battery at 3 years - just do it

EasyPass

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dave
Joined
Sep 12, 2021
Threads
12
Messages
378
Reaction score
436
Location
16066
Vehicles
2021 MME Premium 4X, 2017 Fusion Energi PHEV
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
For consideration:
There is no invisible barrier that definitely compels a 12v battery to be retired at 3 years. My '21 Premium passed 4 yrs in July '25. I occasionally check it's health stats with Car Scanner, and can envision the IPC/Ford App warning of oncoming decay appearing someday when the time has come.

That said any 12v can suddenly give up the ghost anytime. Only difference with an ICE vehicle is that you MIGHT get a warning sign with a slow turnover at startup. Perhaps the IPC/Ford App warning could be its equivalent.

FYI, My wife's Ford PHEV Fusion Energi just recently needed it's 12v replaced after continuous service since fall of 2016! It woke up nearly dead one morning.😁
Sponsored

 
Last edited:

ghaskins

Member
First Name
Greg
Joined
Jul 16, 2025
Threads
2
Messages
24
Reaction score
9
Location
Massachusetts
Vehicles
2022 GTPE in Dark Matter Gray
In fact, the 12-volt battery powers almost everything other than the drive motors, DC/DC converter, and thermal management.

We are talking accessories, lights, control modules, displays, cabin fans, door locks, air bags, ...

It isn't just used to "start the car".
It's important to note that while there are additional loads on 12v besides starting (e.g. welcome lights, door locks, interior lights, etc), all of those functions should be driving load against the HVB via DC/DC inverter when the car is running, not the 12v battery. If you use accessory-mode, then it would be direct load on the 12v battery, though.
 

ChrisO

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
998
Reaction score
992
Location
US
Vehicles
.
It's important to note that while there are additional loads on 12v besides starting (e.g. welcome lights, door locks, interior lights, etc), all of those functions should be driving load against the HVB via DC/DC inverter when the car is running, not the 12v battery. If you use accessory-mode, then it would be direct load on the 12v battery, though.
Your correct, my mistake.
 

shelnian

Well-Known Member
First Name
Ian
Joined
Apr 25, 2022
Threads
1
Messages
407
Reaction score
295
Location
Seattle
Vehicles
2022 MME Premium AWD, 2023 Lightning XLT SR 312A
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
I periodically checked my LVB on Car Scanner. After I owned the car 36 months I noticed the LVB wouldn't charge above a SOC of about 68% and that was after I charged it with my battery charger. I asked Mach-Lee about it and he recommended I replace it, so I did. I had no warnings or any other indication the battery was going bad.
 

Boxman74

Active Member
First Name
Dave
Joined
Aug 29, 2021
Threads
5
Messages
30
Reaction score
35
Location
Ontario, canada
Vehicles
2021 Mustang Mach E premium Awd LR
Occupation
Sales
Country flag
guess I am on borrowed time then. bought aug 21, and 231,000 km. original battery stiill
 


racker

Member
Joined
Jan 28, 2022
Threads
1
Messages
21
Reaction score
31
Location
Minnesota
Vehicles
2022 MME CA Rt 1 AWD
Country flag
For anyone curious, this is the vehicle-reported 12V state of charge before and after replacement on Nov 15. This is a 3.5 year old Mach-E' s original battery. Too bad I don't have more data history, but you can see it drops below 60% once. This car is plugged in and charged every night.

I suppose once I see it approaching "50%" (12.2V?) repeatedly that would be time to replace

Ford Mustang Mach-E Don't wait to replace the 12v battery at 3 years - just do it Screenshot 2025-12-01 130825
 

dww

Well-Known Member
First Name
Doug
Joined
Sep 20, 2021
Threads
5
Messages
132
Reaction score
83
Location
Vancouver, WA
Vehicles
1999 Jaguar XJ8, 2000 Ford F250 SD XL 4WD
Occupation
Winemaker
Country flag
We end of wintering in warmer climates and leaving our '22 in a cold garage for the winter for 6-8 weeks at a time. I was going to change the battery before we left but didn't get around to it.

Do anyone how to charge the 12V while you are gone? I have heard if you turn the car on for 45-60 min at some point the large battery will charge the 12V. It has gone 2 winters this way, but I'm afraid my luck might run out this year without a trickle charger.
 

racker

Member
Joined
Jan 28, 2022
Threads
1
Messages
21
Reaction score
31
Location
Minnesota
Vehicles
2022 MME CA Rt 1 AWD
Country flag
Just buy a cheap NOCO Genius 1 ($24 amazon) if you have a 110V outlet and hook it up. Note the ground (negative) goes to the car frame (note the grounding line)

EDIT oh you left already. IMHO don't do anything
 

ChrisO

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
998
Reaction score
992
Location
US
Vehicles
.
We end of wintering in warmer climates and leaving our '22 in a cold garage for the winter for 6-8 weeks at a time. I was going to change the battery before we left but didn't get around to it.

Do anyone how to charge the 12V while you are gone? I have heard if you turn the car on for 45-60 min at some point the large battery will charge the 12V. It has gone 2 winters this way, but I'm afraid my luck might run out this year without a trickle charger.
In theory you shouldn't have to do anything because the car will charge the 12V battery when needed from the HVB.
 

RickMachE

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2021
Threads
267
Messages
17,897
Reaction score
27,848
Location
SE MI
Vehicles
2022 Mach-E Premium 4X, 2022 Lightning Lariat ER
Country flag
We end of wintering in warmer climates and leaving our '22 in a cold garage for the winter for 6-8 weeks at a time. I was going to change the battery before we left but didn't get around to it.

Do anyone how to charge the 12V while you are gone? I have heard if you turn the car on for 45-60 min at some point the large battery will charge the 12V. It has gone 2 winters this way, but I'm afraid my luck might run out this year without a trickle charger.
You can't do what you stated. A remote start is 15 min max, and extended for 15 min. Doing 2 remote starts, or one and an extend, then requires a physical start. As you are not there, you have no options.
 

ipca204

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2024
Threads
19
Messages
814
Reaction score
1,197
Location
60543
Vehicles
2024 GT PE, 2023 VW ID.4, 2025 Equinox EV
Occupation
retired
Country flag
I find it interesting that there is a thread for the “oldest 12v battery“ as in it some kind of good competition to let it go until you have problems. I personally am planning on changing mine when I get to the three year mark.
heh! That was one I started..still had some action as of last month..
 

HGxxx

Well-Known Member
First Name
Harish
Joined
Nov 16, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
280
Reaction score
328
Location
New york
Vehicles
Fusion energi, mach e premium standard range
Country flag
I have a Oct 22 build that I took delivery in early dec of 22, got Ford pass warning on Nov 23 rd 25, took to dealer failed load test, replaced 12 v under 3 year warranty ( had one more week left of the 36 months).
 

Sikkun

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 9, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
1,777
Reaction score
3,396
Location
USA
Vehicles
2023 Mach E
Country flag
That said any 12v can suddenly give up the ghost anytime. Only difference with an ICE vehicle is that you MIGHT get a warning sign with a slow turnover at startup.
Literally every 12v car battery I have had has seemingly randomly died, then I jump it, go to an auto parts store for them to tell me it “test fine”, and then dies again the next day if I stupidly don’t just buy a new one.

The only difference I see with the Mach E is not being able to pop the trunk and do the jump as easily when that happens…which is design I disagree with. But apparently door handles and key holes are not currently in vogue.
 

Vgkfan

Well-Known Member
First Name
Keith
Joined
Jul 7, 2022
Threads
4
Messages
398
Reaction score
270
Location
Nevada
Vehicles
2022 mme premium ER AWD 2016 Kia, 2003 Honda
Country flag
Got the check 12v battery message on my ford app yesterday at 10am. Mobile service here around 2. $315.
 
 







Top