Elon's Prediction

[dbsb3233]

Trust me, I did try to avoid reading it. ?

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[DennisD]

Calling Musk an idiot = derangement syndrome. You can't have a valid discussion if you're in that mindset.

You don't have to like the guy, but he's no idiot and you don't become the richest man on earth by luck.

Anyone that loses 40 Billion dollars on a whim is an idiot.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idiot

 

[DevSecOps]

Anyone that loses 40 Billion dollars on a whim is an idiot.

He hasn't lost anything. He made an investment and some Yahoo opinion piece thinks he's lost it.

In the end many said the same when he started Tesla, that sentiment didn't age well. Where X will be in 5 years we don't know.

The quantity of the money argument you keep making is relevant only to you, not him.

 

[DennisD]

He hasn't lost anything. He made an investment and some Yahoo opinion piece thinks he's lost it.

In the end many said the same when he started Tesla, that sentiment didn't age well. Where X will be in 5 years we don't know.

The quantity of the money argument you keep making is relevant only to you, not him.

He was viewed in a much better light before he purchased (and on it's current value) took a substantial hit immediately after purchasing it.

What makes it worse was he tried to get out of it, thus confirming that even he thought it was a stupid purchase.

So in short, he lost his credibility by losing more money than any other human on the Planet. Yes, he is still rich but he now owns the definition of being an idiot.

Perception in most cases is reality and I don't know of any person in sound mind thinking would say that he made a "good" purchase.

I would venture to say that if one took a poll in the US, most would label him as an idiot. I could be wrong but the percentage none the less would surely be high.

 

[Hammered]

Because he was trying to get a better deal on the price.

That and they lied about their bot account numbers. Musk is a great elementary litmus test to see if a user is capable of basic analytical thought.

Elon has made insanely successful companies in 2 different market segments everyone believed impossible. Not only did he enter these markets, he's made the incumbents look quite foolish. These elon 'luckers' would much rather have our astronauts riding soyuz paying the russians for rides to space than admit elon knows what he's doing.

 

[DennisD]

That and they lied about their bot account numbers. Musk is a great elementary litmus test to see if a user is capable of basic analytical thought.

Elon has made insanely successful companies in 2 different market segments everyone believed impossible. Not only did he enter these markets, he's made the incumbents look quite foolish. These elon 'luckers' would much rather have our astronauts riding soyuz paying the russians for rides to space than admit elon knows what he's doing.

Don't forget, almost everyone on the Planet thought that GM wouldn't fail but with their stupid investments (or lack of), they came crashing down.

Elon is not done yet. He (IMO) is a high risk taker that may end up bringing everyone down with him. The jury is still out and I would be careful to brag on him just yet.

His luck may continue or it may fall to Earth. No pun intended with his latest Space X accident.

 

[thekat03]

There's nothing like having lots of money to be able to make more money.
https://www.ctpublic.org/education/...ility-the-biggest-predictor-of-future-success

 

[Hammered]

Don't forget, almost everyone on the Planet thought that GM wouldn't fail but with their stupid investments (or lack of), they came crashing down.

Elon is not done yet. He (IMO) is a high risk taker that may end up bringing everyone down with him. The jury is still out and I would be careful to brag on him just yet.

His luck may continue or it may fall to Earth. No pun intended with his latest Space X accident.

The only people who were blindsided by GMs failure, weren't paying attention. Ford and GM are in trouble, again. They're just too inefficient and tesla is holding no punches. Elon is on-track to dominate the auto industry, the energy delivery industry, he's already got rockets on lockdown which has also aligned him into a position to mop the floor with incumbent wireless telecom. He already owns the most active digital town square. There's no telling what they're doing in the ai space, they're certainly aligned to go the furthest due to the amount of data on hand.

It's okay, I promise, you can both acknowledge someone's accomplishments, and still not like them as a person.

 

[DennisD]

The only people who were blindsided by GMs failure, weren't paying attention. Ford and GM are in trouble, again. They're just too inefficient and tesla is holding no punches. Elon is on-track to dominate the auto industry, the energy delivery industry, he's already got rockets on lockdown which has also aligned him into a position to mop the floor with incumbent wireless telecom. He already owns the most active digital town square. There's no telling what they're doing in the ai space, they're certainly aligned to go the furthest due to the amount of data on hand.

It's okay, I promise, you can both acknowledge someone's accomplishments, and still not like them as a person.

Thanks for confirming my post. ?

 

[Hammered]

Thanks for confirming my post. ?

Nothing I said had anything to do with luck. He continues to align himself for success and then proceeds to achieve it. Business isn't a game of chance, particularly when you identify demands in the market and set out to cater to them. Even neural link is aiming at a hole in the market, despite loftier goals.

 

[DennisD]

Nothing I said had anything to do with luck. He continues to align himself for success and then proceeds to achieve it. Business isn't a game of chance, particularly when you identify demands in the market and set out to cater to them. Even neural link is aiming at a hole in the market, despite loftier goals.

https://www.slashgear.com/1145295/elon-musks-biggest-tech-failures-that-no-one-talks-about/

He has succeeded at one thing.

Many people (especially those on the "right") thinks he is God like and can do no wrong.

Seems to be a theme. ?

 

[MACH-E Mountain Way]

I never said that I don't want robots. It's inevitable (Head nod to the folks with the podcast).

The point I'm trying to make (and apparently not doing a good job or others are trying very hard to ignore or something) is that in this world where robots will be doing many of the menial and repetitive tasks that humans used to do, what will be the lot of us humans? I fully appreciate not having to do lots of manual work as much. I like my Roomba and I already admitted to having an appreciation for what it does. And hell, I bought an EV (which is a freaking iPhone on wheels) so I clearly am a fan of technological advancements.

Some folks apparently think that when this happens, people will simply just get other jobs. Ok. Maybe. But I'm asking what are those other jobs and will they pay enough to afford all of the aforementioned robot made stuff? There will only be so many support roles that will be available.

I do believe that us humans are very adaptable and will navigate our way through the troubled waters ahead but it may be unnecessarily painful and difficult. I just think that we are going have to lean in on the creative and artistic side of our nature and not on what we can do with physical labor alone.

In this current environment I am on the side of the workers. The CEOs and management are gonna be ok.

I am not a member of a union and have never been in one. I live in a Right To Work (for Less) state so have never really had an opportunity. But unlike so many of my peers, I don't think unions are outdated and no longer needed. In fact I see the recent uptick in labor trying to organize as a good and necessary response. When (hopefully not if) our brethren in the south of this country realize that they will have way more bargaining power if they organize together instead of needlessly hating on one another, there will be a day of reckoning coming. When we pit various regions of the country against each other it is bound to become a race to the bottom. If labor stands together however, then there is potential hope to lessen the pain of the transition. When we all do better, we all do better, period.

Now back to reading about the inevitable failure of my HVJB or whatever and pining for Bluecruise 1.3...

 

[thekat03]

I never said that I don't want robots. It's inevitable (Head nod to the folks with the podcast).

The point I'm trying to make (and apparently not doing a good job or others are trying very hard to ignore or something) is that in this world where robots will be doing many of the menial and repetitive tasks that humans used to do, what will be the lot of us humans? I fully appreciate not having to do lots of manual work as much. I like my Roomba and I already admitted to having an appreciation for what it does. And hell, I bought an EV (which is a freaking iPhone on wheels) so I clearly am a fan of technological advancements.

Some folks apparently think that when this happens, people will simply just get other jobs. Ok. Maybe. But I'm asking what are those other jobs and will they pay enough to afford all of the aforementioned robot made stuff? There will only be so many support roles that will be available.

I do believe that us humans are very adaptable and will navigate our way through the troubled waters ahead but it may be unnecessarily painful and difficult. I just think that we are going have to lean in on the creative and artistic side of our nature and not on what we can do with physical labor alone.

In this current environment I am on the side of the workers. The CEOs and management are gonna be ok.

I am not a member of a union and have never been in one. I live in a Right To Work (for Less) state so have never really had an opportunity. But unlike so many of my peers, I don't think unions are outdated and no longer needed. In fact I see the recent uptick in labor trying to organize as a good and necessary response. When (hopefully not if) our brethren in the south of this country realize that they will have way more bargaining power if they organize together instead of needlessly hating on one another, there will be a day of reckoning coming. When we pit various regions of the country against each other it is bound to become a race to the bottom. If labor stands together however, then there is potential hope to lessen the pain of the transition. When we all do better, we all do better, period.

Now back to reading about the inevitable failure of my HVJB or whatever and pining for Bluecruise 1.3...

People can and will continue to do all the work that robots cannot do well. That could be as simple a job as being a one-on-one sitter at the hospital, keeping a confused patient company and safe. Or it could be the people who design and maintain the robots. Any job that requires creativity and ingenuity will continue to be better performed by humans than robots for a very long time. I am not worried about a lack of work for humans. It will just be a change of work.

 

[DevSecOps]

Many people (especially those on the "right") thinks he is God like and can do no wrong.

You've gone completely off the deep end now...

Go to YouTube and search for "Elon Musk" with a time frame of 2010-2019 and you'll see that he was the idol of the left for many, many years. When he decided to start speaking his mind, the left went bat shit crazy. Whoopi sold her Tesla, the cast of The View broke down in mental anguish and the world as we know it came to an end.

Elon isn't anyone's idol of the "right". If that was the case every conservative would be driving a Tesla. Some people are able to look past the stupid things people say and appreciate others for being smart and accomplished. There's plenty of things that Elon does wrong or gets wrong, but that's not for me to judge.

This forum wouldn't exist and the MachE wouldn't exist if it wasn't for this man that lives in your head 24/7.

 

[Hammered]

https://www.slashgear.com/1145295/elon-musks-biggest-tech-failures-that-no-one-talks-about/

He has succeeded at one thing.
Many people (especially those on the "right") thinks he is God like and can do no wrong.
Seems to be a theme. ?

Ah yes, the old "because success wasn't achieved everywhere, it's all a failure" trope. I'd be concerned if he didn't have any failures, it'd give credence to the lizard people idea. Hell even starship broke at least a dozen records on its first attempt at space, everything from the fastest reinforced concrete excavation to the most summersaults performed by an intact launch vehicle.

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