Extended Warranty-1) Worth it? and 2) How to negotiate best price?

[Larry Paul]

I am interested to get a Ford Protect warranty as well... but I am not sure what the Ford extended warranty plan actually covers for our cars. https://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com are running a special through memorial day...but I am reading the fine print.

It does include:
Engine - Cylinder block and Internal Lubricated Parts, seals and gaskets, the cylinder heads, manifold (Exhaust, Intake and bolts), factory installed turbocharger/ supercharger units, timing chain (gears or belt), flywheel, valve covers, oil pan, timing chain cover, oil pump, water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing. Also flywheel ring gear, diesel lift pump and gas and diesel fuel injectors, heater core assembly, radiator, radiator fan, radiator fan clutch or motor, ETA pump hose assembly, alternator, starter motor, electronic ignition module, radiator fan relay, fuel pump, starter motor solenoid. (our cars have NONE of those things)

What it does NOT include:
electric Vehicle’s main power cell batteries are not included in this coverage
or our actual drive train motors ???

and:

If You elected Powertrain Wrap Coverage, You have new PremiumCARE coverage for all components except components covered under PowertrainCARE. Powertrain Wrap Coverage applies only to the original Service Contract Holder for the selected coverage and is not transferable to any subsequent vehicle owner.

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[ctenidae]

What am I missing?

Brakes don't include regen parts or function

Under Electrical you might be able to stretch the definitions of "odometer" and "speedometer" to cover parts of the computers associated with those functions, which could be quite broad.

High Tech "electronic instrument cluster" too, except that exclusion would be tough. 5(c)

Roadside Assistance only includes gasoline or diesel, no electrons 6(a)(1)

GTs and Mustangs are excluded from coverage 7 (v)

It seems as if they didn't really mean EVs when they wrote these programs. I bet there are a million procedural snarls trying to get a repair done because none of the parts will be listed in the system or something like that.

 

[Larry Paul]

Brakes don't include regen parts or function

Under Electrical you might be able to stretch the definitions of "odometer" and "speedometer" to cover parts of the computers associated with those functions, which could be quite broad.

High Tech "electronic instrument cluster" too, except that exclusion would be tough. 5(c)

Roadside Assistance only includes gasoline or diesel, no electrons 6(a)(1)

GTs and Mustangs are excluded from coverage 7 (v)

It seems as if they didn't really mean EVs when they wrote these programs. I bet there are a million procedural snarls trying to get a repair done because none of the parts will be listed in the system or something like that.

Thank you! I guess in the spirit of what is NOT included may be that the drive train components, charging components etc. are covered...but it seems very clear NOT the traction battery...

What is "7 (v)"?

 

[WNKent]

I bought the one I saw here through Granger Ford for $1300 (8yr, 100k miles). My dealer wanted sometbibg like $4,000 for 6 years.

THIS

 

[ctenidae]

What is "7 (v)"?

It's page 4, paragraph v Section 7, where they list the vehicles that are excluded from coverage:

Ford: Foose F-150, GT, Mustang All Roush Performance Modified Vehicles (except Stage 1 and Stage 2), Shelby GT500KR, GTS, Supersnake, Tonka and any other Shelby Performance Modified Vehicles, all Saleen modified vehicles, and Transit Connect Electric;

Whoever assembled this document should get canned - you'd expect better out of a 1st year Associate. Every section has a different format and the typographic errors abound - the use of commas in the Ford list is unrefined, at best.

 

[Larry Paul]

It's page 4, paragraph v Section 7, where they list the vehicles that are excluded from coverage:

Ford: Foose F-150, GT, Mustang All Roush Performance Modified Vehicles (except Stage 1 and Stage 2), Shelby GT500KR, GTS, Supersnake, Tonka and any other Shelby Performance Modified Vehicles, all Saleen modified vehicles, and Transit Connect Electric;

Whoever assembled this document should get canned - you'd expect better out of a 1st year Associate. Every section has a different format and the typographic errors abound - the use of commas in the Ford list is unrefined, at best.

Ah, yes that document...

Yes, they DO need to work on their wording on this WHOLE document, however, I don't think there are issues with any version of the Mach E (including GT, GTPE versions).

The Ford Foose F-150 is a 2008 special performance truck. (Not sure why it is still on a 2022 list)
The GT is the Ford GT (GT40 like modern super car)

Mustang: (Meaning any of these special edition Mustangs):
Mustang All Roush Performance Modified Vehicles (except Stage 1 and Stage 2)
Mustang Shelby GT500KR
Mustang GTS (a 1995 model...again, why is this on the list in 2022?)
Mustang Supersnake

Ford F-150 Tonka
Other Shelby Performance Modified Vehicles (they did more than Mustang)
Other Saleen modified vehicles (they did more than just Mustang)
etc.

I read that if it is not one of those exceptions, all Mustang and Mach E models are included...and if they sell a warranty to us, it would be hard to say that our cars don't qualify. I just want to make sure that if I get a warranty they don't get out of supporting the vehicle (outside of the Traction Battery if that is excluded).

 

[ctenidae]

I read that if it is not one of those exceptions, all Mustang and Mach E models are included...and if they sell a warranty to us, it would be hard to say that our cars don't qualify.

I agree with the first part, but have my doubts about the second. Caveat emptor, and all that.

 

[FirstPony]

Haven't decided if we will do any sort of extended warranty, but I will add this... if there was a way to extend the warranty on the HV battery package past 100k to say 150k, I would probably jump at it as long as the cost was not insane.

That's the big worry for me anyway - long term health of the battery. I have a Kia Optima PHEV right now, and the battery pack had to be replaced at 38k miles. Cost of that pack would have been 9k outside of warranty, but luckily we were within warranty.

Cost of a new battery pack on an XR Mach-E is probably going to run you $25k (or equivalent with inflation later) if you have to do it, which is nearly half the cost of the car. Im willing to pay significant money to mitigate that risk.

 

[Larry Paul]

FYI: Lombard Ford Warranties did get me the ACTUAL correct document for what is covered with Extended warranties on our Mach E vehicles. Please see the attached.

I called Ford, and emailed grangermotors.com and NEITHER could get me the correct document.

 

[WNKent]

FYI: Lombard Ford Warranties did get me the ACTUAL correct document for what is covered with Extended warranties on our Mach E vehicles. Please see the attached.

I called Ford, and emailed grangermotors.com and NEITHER could get me the correct document.

Can you post the number for Lombard Ford? Or the location of that dealership?

 

[Larry Paul]

Can you post the number for Lombard Ford? Or the location of that dealership?

They sell nationwide:

https://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com

 

[WNKent]

They sell nation wide:

All the years I drove Hondas I bought Honda policies from a dealer in RI. I'm glad that option exists for Ford too.

 

[Larry Paul]

All the years I drove Hondas I bought Honda policies from a dealer in RI. I'm glad that option exists for Ford too.

I am just happy that my warranty that I just purchased for my GTPE was NOT for:

Cylinder block and Internal Lubricated Parts, seals and gaskets, the cylinder heads, manifold (Exhaust, Intake and bolts), factory installed turbocharger/ supercharger units, timing chain (gears or belt), flywheel, valve covers, oil pan, timing chain cover, oil pump, water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing. Also flywheel ring gear, diesel lift pump and gas and diesel fuel injectors, heater core assembly, radiator, radiator fan, radiator fan clutch or motor, ETA pump hose assembly, alternator, starter motor, electronic ignition module, radiator fan relay, fuel pump, starter motor solenoid...etc.

 

[WNKent]

I am just happy that my warranty that I just purchased for my GTPE was NOT for:

Cylinder block and Internal Lubricated Parts, seals and gaskets, the cylinder heads, manifold (Exhaust, Intake and bolts), factory installed turbocharger/ supercharger units, timing chain (gears or belt), flywheel, valve covers, oil pan, timing chain cover, oil pump, water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing. Also flywheel ring gear, diesel lift pump and gas and diesel fuel injectors, heater core assembly, radiator, radiator fan, radiator fan clutch or motor, ETA pump hose assembly, alternator, starter motor, electronic ignition module, radiator fan relay, fuel pump, starter motor solenoid...etc.

Yes, until I saw the the document that you uploaded, I thought it was a rip off.

 

[Larry Paul]

Yes, until I saw the the document that you uploaded, I thought it was a rip off.

I was NOT going to sign up for a warranty until I found a document for what would or not be covered on our car. Not sure why it was so hard to find...but glad to share it with the community.

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