Finally, Elon Musk said something nice about Ford 😅

[RedStallion]

Earlier this year, Musk said during a podcast interview with the Tesla Owners Silicon Valley Club that both Lucid and electric-truck startup Rivian were "tracking toward bankruptcy."

He warned that unless the companies "can cut their cost dramatically, they are in deep trouble and will end up in the car cemetery like every other (US automaker) with the exception of Tesla and Ford.”

https://www.thestreet.com/electric-vehicles/teslas-musk-makes-a-harsh-prediction-regarding-a-rival

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[Ghost Ryder]

Building cars is really hard. Most will fail, just like when we transition from horses to Automobile. I don't think lucid and Rivian will make it. The Korean brands and Ford will do alright as will GM.

 

[MellowJohnny]

Did Musk forget how close Tesla came to running out of money?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/03/mus...onth-from-bankruptcy-during-model-3-ramp.html

I think it's a bit early to count them out....

 

[dbsb3233]

Musk has been saying nice things about Ford all along.

It's many of the Tesla stans that have been trashing Ford and the Mach-E.

 

[voxel]

Building cars is really hard. Most will fail, just like when we transition from horses to Automobile. I don't think lucid and Rivian will make it. The Korean brands and Ford will do alright as will GM.

Rivian may end up as an Amazon van supplier at worst.

Why is everybody forgetting about VW group? Not a fan of their EVs (except Taycans lol) but they built second or third most in the world.

 

[KevinS]

I have a lot of good wishes for Rivian. So many of the reviews of the cars themselves are highly favorable. It would be sad to see them become the modern-day Tucker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_48

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Rivian may end up as an Amazon van supplier at worst.

Why is everybody forgetting about VW group? Not a fan of their EVs (except Taycans lol) but they built second or third most in the world.

I like the way Rivian looks, kinda quirky, but I hear they're having problems with ramping up. Also they are price way too high to succeed. They don't exude luxury, but they're priced like that. Not many buyers for 80K+ cars.

I like VW offerings, I think they will do well.

 

[voxel]

I like the way Rivian looks, kinda quirky, but I hear they're having problems with ramping up. Also they are price way too high to succeed. They don't exude luxury, but they're priced like that. Not many buyers for 80K+ cars.

I like VW offerings, I think they will do well.

“Problem ramping up”? Sales wise in Q3 the R1T aren’t much different than the Mach-E or Lightning. If anything… Ford has had trouble ramping up. So much for 200K Mach-Es a year. Rivian has one (new) factory that is building Amazon vans, R1Ts, and R1Ss. Rivians are super common here in Orlando. I see them more than ID.4s, Ioniq 5s, EV6s, etc. I do think they simply accepted too many orders but demand is a good thing to have I guess.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...bev-and-ford-to-2-us-bev-sales-in-2022.22849/

 

[DYohn]

I care what Elon Musk says these days just about as much as I care what Gene Simmons says.

 

[Socalsp3]

That's like compliments from a lunatic like Kanye west. Not sure if that's a good thing

 

[Ghost Ryder]

“Problem ramping up”? Sales wise in Q3 the R1T aren’t much different than the Mach-E or Lightning. If anything… Ford has had trouble ramping up. So much for 200K Mach-Es a year. Rivian has one (new) factory that is building Amazon vans, R1Ts, and R1Ss. Rivians are super common here in Orlando. I see them more than ID.4s, Ioniq 5s, EV6s, etc. I do think they simply accepted too many orders but demand is a good thing to have I guess.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...bev-and-ford-to-2-us-bev-sales-in-2022.22849/

Yeah, ramping up as in filling orders. They're in bed with amazon, and Amazon ordered 150k vehicles. If they can't meet demands and make a profit while doing it, then people will look elsewhere. You can't lose 10k on every vehicle sold and expect to stay in business.

 

[generaltso]

I care what Elon Musk says these days just about as much as I care what Gene Simmons says.

So I gather you're not a card carrying member of the KISS Army?

 

[roamtheworld]

I care what Elon Musk says these days just about as much as I care what Gene Simmons says.

Spoken like a true Peter Criss fan

 

[Logal727]

I mean a year ago I would have thought him complimenting ford was a good thing, but recently he’s gone wackadoo

 

[AhardFSU]

Don’t really care what THAT guy’s opinion is on Ford or anything else. He’s not the arbiter of whom will or will not succeed in the EV race. He should stick to worrying about BYD, NIO, VW Group in China and Europe and GM, Kia group and Ford in the US.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that EV expansion will have many fathers. Ford, VW Group, Kia and it’s group, Mercedes, BMW, NIO, BYD, GM, Stellantis can and are players in this race.

Eventually, Toyota and Honda will decide that they want to be serious about EVs and they’ll do their thing.

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