GT craving

[Jimmy2]

Faster than the Model 3LR and neck snapping for sure but moving to the GT has another big negative - range loss.

With the GTPE trim is quite bad. I could easily get 280 miles real-world with my Premiums but the GTPE was hitting 230 miles (maybe). My GTPE basically lived connected to a charger.

Yep, finding out quickly my 23 GTPE gets the charger more often than my 21 Prem needed.

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[jgillmer]

Yep, finding out quickly my 23 GTPE gets the charger more often than my 21 Prem needed.

That's understandable. The GTPE was never touted as exceptional range. I think initial EPA was around 230.

My GT's (not PE) initial epa was 250 or 260. Most of the year I'm in the 270s and 280s. Spring and Fall temperate days (60-80 degrees) and city driving, I can touch 300. Highway and/or hot or cold, then it's closer to 230-250.

 

[jgillmer]

No, its just I like the way GT looks with the wider tires. So its totally on me

I think, I'm terms of looks, the sharpest part of the GT is the front grill having texture vs. The Premium and Select with the straight color/paneling.

 

[jgillmer]

If you’re prepared to pay for market adjustment then it’s pretty easy to find them…

the biggest disappointment about the GT is that your premium is actually faster because the GT neuters itself after a lousy 5 seconds.

Not true. GT and GTPE are light years faster than the Premium, even with the throttle after 5 secs. And, outside of track conditions, the 5 sec issue really doesn't come into play. I have yet had it throttle on me, and I once stuck to the bumper of a Shelby GT 350 from 0 to 110 mph off a light and through an on-ramp to EZ lanes in the DC area. The 5 secs are felt by cats at the track where the 1/4 results matter vs. Coming off the line or passing at highway speed.

The Premium would be so far behind, in that track scenario, that even if it wasn't throttled (which it would if you heated the wires and batt from extended full speed), you're coming in dead last vs. An GTPE, a Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model Y, and Kia EV6 GT. About the only car you would beat is the id.4.

 

[jgillmer]

The reason I went with the GTPE was:
1) I liked the front end a lot better
2) I wanted the Magnaride suspension do to multiple report of bouncy ride in the GT
3) Like the wheels better
4) nicer seats and interior.
4) the acceleration difference (before I found out about the 5 sec rule and the power reduction above 70)

I think when I bought it, the difference between a GT and a Premium was like 10k. But I'm assuming that when I sell the car eventually, I'll be able to recoup some of the difference, and hence the difference would only be around 5k. So for 5k difference, I felt the Upgrades was worth it.

My biggest annoyance when comparing GT and Premium pricing was that the glass top was a surcharge on the GT, on top.of the jump in the base price. But, now that I have the GT, no way I'd dial back down. Real world only.issue is that passengers feel the tight suspension (and thus a little more likely to feel quesy in it when I accelerate). The mag suspension of the PE likely improves on that regular GT issue.

 

[tesla2mme]

Not true. GT and GTPE are light years faster than the Premium, even with the throttle after 5 secs. And, outside of track conditions, the 5 sec issue really doesn't come into play. I have yet had it throttle on me, and I once stuck to the bumper of a Shelby GT 350 from 0 to 110 mph off a light and through an on-ramp to EZ lanes in the DC area. The 5 secs are felt by cats at the track where the 1/4 results matter vs. Coming off the line or passing at highway speed.

The Premium would be so far behind, in that track scenario, that even if it wasn't throttled (which it would if you heated the wires and batt from extended full speed), you're coming in dead last vs. An GTPE, a Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model Y, and Kia EV6 GT. About the only car you would beat is the id.4.

there’s plenty of Dragy data here to tell you that a Premium will catch a GT and beat it. You can bury your head in the sand all you like, but the bottom line is the bait and switch of 5 second power cut off is criminal, and sad in such a costly vehicle. It isn’t acceptable to simply say “yeah but… it only matters on a track…” maybe for you, but there are places in the country, and the world, where it’s down right dangerous to try to drive with the jail bars creeping up the way they do. Both from a roll and a dig, the car performance is outstanding, but only for 5 seconds. Alter that it reminds me of my old Mazda6.

if the GT was an econobox at a Bolt price point then the power cutoff makes sense but it isn’t. Depending where you are in the world a GT nonPE could be 80 Racks. A car at that price point should give it all it’s got every single time, not be a gelding after 5 sec.

The GT is dead last to a Model S, 3 of comparable trim, Y, and EV6 GT, anyway…

it loses to everything. If you haven’t seen that video yet I suggest you check it out. I suppose it could be said that Ford has never been much for performance anyways, even my 5.0 GT lost to its Camaro counterpart, also.

I love my MMME GT. but it could be SO much more. And ford continues to play bait and switch with the power cut off. I am most upset that it was so obvious that they misconstrued the performance of the car ON THE TRACK in the press materials. It’s almost as if “their” car didn’t have such a limitation. Interesting.

 

[Mach1E]

there’s plenty of Dragy data here to tell you that a Premium will catch a GT and beat it.

False. So very false.

Covered many times, but I’ll say it again.

You win a drag race getting to the finish line first (distance), not based on speed.

By the 1/4 mile, sure they’re both going around 100 mph, but the premium is bus lengths behind.

It’s not catching up before hitting its top speed of 113.

There is “plenty of draggy data??”

Where have you seen ANY draggy data where a premium will cross ANY finish line (distance) first?

 

[jgillmer]

That's understandable. The GTPE was never touted as exceptional range. I think initial EPA was around 230.

My GT's (not PE) initial epa was 250 or 260. Most of the year I'm in the 270s and 280s. Spring and Fall temperate days (60-80 degrees) and city driving, I can touch 300. Highway and/or hot or cold, then it's closer to 230-250.

Just last night in sub-freezing Temps, I juiced to 100% in prep for a trip to Ohio. Range shows 265 - and that's with cold weather for the previous 2 charges and a heavy dose.of highway time. Pretty good for this time of year for me. We'll see what it will do on the actual - my money is only about a 2.8 mi per kWh pace...likely around 250-265.

 

[Dustus]

Such a passionate discussion. All I know is that I'm a fairly aggressive driver when it comes to acceleration and I love my GT. Maybe it doesn't impress the nerds at the drag strip after 1/8 mile, but you know what? An 1/8 of mile is more than enough at a stop light to impress everyone in my car and the cars next to me at the light.

I've never noticed the 5 second limiter on my car. Maybe I'm too old to keep my foot down that long, but by 5 seconds I'm doing 80 mph speed limits on the freeways here. Passing on the freeway and I've hit the gas at 80 and zipped to 100 and it feels faster than my previous gas powered GTs so I've no complaints there.

I think the GT was worth the addition 5k for the 5 second thrills and the looks.

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