Help me decide: Mach-E or Model Y

[silverelan]

Model 3? Model 3, Y, and MME all have pretty firm suspensions. With that said, it’s subjective. I basically had back to back weekends with 250 round trip miles on the MME using BlueCruise and had no issues.

I did trade the MME for a RAV4 Prime this past weekend and drove each 125 miles on the highway and yes the Prime is more comfortable than all of the above. It’s a classical SUV with softer suspension. It drives like a ID.4 and accelerates like an EV (0 to 60 in 5.5 seconds)

Have you considered that you may be a tad fickle?

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[voxel]

Have you considered that you may be a tad fickle?

I guess I'm like reviewers... lol.

Honestly, I would have been happy with the Model Y or Mach-E. Both are great cars. Those who think otherwise haven't spent much time with both. BTW... the Model 3 is still my FAVORITE EV even though I mentioned the firm suspension.

I just wanted to try a R4P before tax changes in 2022 (now that BBB looks dead... doesn't matter). I am VERY impressed by it. I just wanted longer range than what EVs could provide and the overall EV-like drive quality (even in gas mode) is an unexpected bonus.

 

[Mirak]

Comes down to what features are more important to you....

• Price: Mach E wins period. The most apples-to-apples comparison would be a Mach E Premium Extended AWD to a Tesla Model Y Long Range. The MME 4X weighs in at $51,400 (thanks to 7,500 federal tax credit) + $495 for red or $795 for tri-coat white or orange. The MYLR starts at $58,990 + $1,000 for blue, $2,000 for red, and $1,000 for a white interior. This means the MYLR costs between $6,795 and $10,590 MORE than the MME 4X depending upon build. Not getting the federal tax credit is killer.
• Acceleration and Handling: The MYLR is the lighter car, and it will throw you back in your seat with just a little more oomph than the MME. You'll also get a little more road and wind noise from the MYLR due to those weight savings. And you'll get an almost comically small steering wheel. Steering feels more electronic in the MYLR and more mechanical in the MME. This is all subjective, but auto enthusiast reviewers generally prefer the MME's handling, for what it is worth.
• Appearance: Preferred styling is subjective, to a point, but anyone can see the obvious differences. The MY is basically built on the M3 chassis with a raised roofline, giving it a distinctly bubble shape. It has a formless, androgynous look. An understated, anonymous people mover. Some people like it (I have a theory that it appeals to some because it beckons to a futuristic fantasy of a fleet of robo taxis). The MME has much more aggressive, muscular styling.
• Interior Amenities and Styling: This is highly subjective. The MYLR has a MUCH more minimalist interior where you have to use the touchscreen for almost everything, including operating the windshield wipers and opening the glove box! The MME maintains more conventional creature comforts, like having a wiper stalk, a volume knob, and a driver instrument cluster (this last one isn't so subjective - it is a downgrade to lose that in the MYLR). Also, the MME still has mechanical door latches, which can come in handy for not burning to death.
• Software: The MME's software is a little buggy and laggy, but overall it is fine. Just fine. It isn't nearly as smooth and it sometimes is not as intuitive as Tesla. You can pick a nit here or there, but overall Tesla is the software king. Ford's software should get better, over time, but I wouldn't hold your breath thinking it'll catch up to Tesla anytime soon. But you DO get Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with the MME - a big omission from Tesla.
• Driver Enhancements: As with all things software, Tesla's Autopilot seems more refined overall than Ford's CoPilot-360 suite of driver aids, but the MME does offer cross-traffic alerts and a 360 camera, both of which are another big omission from Autopilot. And BlueCruise allows true hands free driving at least on highways, although Autopilot's lane centering appears to be just as reliable if you don't mind resting a hand (or an ankle weight) on the wheel. This obviously doesn't include Tesla's Full Self Driving. It you're willing to pay $10,000 more for that, then you're not seriously considering a MME anyway.
• Cabin and Rear and Frunk Capacities: Little differences here and there, but overall pretty darned similar. Don't believe the published numbers - judge for yourself.
• Efficiency and Range and Charging Speed: The MYLR is more efficient - you might squeak out 0.5 to 1 more mile per kWh than with the MME. That greater efficiency will never translate into savings due to the massive price premium. And it doesn't translate into better range because the MME 4X has the bigger battery. But you can charge the MYLR back to full-ish maybe 15mins faster, which might matter if you do a lot of road tripping, and that extra efficiency is "helping to save the planet."
• Public Charging: Like cell coverage, this can vary, but overall Tesla still maintains the edge in charging network. And likely will continue to have this edge for at least a few more years. Again, this only really matters if you don't have access to home charging or plan to do a lot of road tripping.
• Brand: This might be the biggest difference of all. The Tesla MYLR is a Tesla. The Ford Mustang Mach E is a Ford. If the logo on your car is like, really important to you or your social credit score, choose accordingly.

There you have it. Pick which things are more important to you, and then choose accordingly.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I'm gonna say it again: Buy the Brand T car. Leaves more MMEs for the rest of us to buy. ???

 

[Whatstreet]

I'm gonna say it again: Buy the Brand T car. Leaves more MMEs for the rest of us to buy. ???

The T has a better battery. The F has more S3x appeal.

 

[ARK]

I guess I'm like reviewers... lol.

Honestly, I would have been happy with the Model Y or Mach-E. Both are great cars. Those who think otherwise haven't spent much time with both. BTW... the Model 3 is still my FAVORITE EV even though I mentioned the firm suspension.

I just wanted to try a R4P before tax changes in 2022 (now that BBB looks dead... doesn't matter). I am VERY impressed by it. I just wanted longer range than what EVs could provide and the overall EV-like drive quality (even in gas mode) is an unexpected bonus.

I foresee a Lexus RZ in your future, at about this time next year.

 

[coolshades]

Comes down to what features are more important to you....

• Price: Mach E wins period. The most apples-to-apples comparison would be a Mach E Premium Extended AWD to a Tesla Model Y Long Range. The MME 4X weighs in at $51,400 (thanks to 7,500 federal tax credit) + $495 for red or $795 for tri-coat white or orange. The MYLR starts at $58,990 + $1,000 for blue, $2,000 for red, and $1,000 for a white interior. This means the MYLR costs between $6,795 and $10,590 MORE than the MME 4X depending upon build. Not getting the federal tax credit is killer.
• Acceleration and Handling: The MYLR is the lighter car, and it will throw you back in your seat with just a little more oomph than the MME. You'll also get a little more road and wind noise from the MYLR due to those weight savings. And you'll get an almost comically small steering wheel. Steering feels more electronic in the MYLR and more mechanical in the MME. This is all subjective, but auto enthusiast reviewers generally prefer the MME's handling, for what it is worth.
• Appearance: Preferred styling is subjective, to a point, but anyone can see the obvious differences. The MY is basically built on the M3 chassis with a raised roofline, giving it a distinctly bubble shape. It has a formless, androgynous look. An understated, anonymous people mover. Some people like it (I have a theory that it appeals to some because it beckons to a futuristic fantasy of a fleet of robo taxis). The MME has much more aggressive, muscular styling.
• Interior Amenities and Styling: This is highly subjective. The MYLR has a MUCH more minimalist interior where you have to use the touchscreen for almost everything, including operating the windshield wipers and opening the glove box! The MME maintains more conventional creature comforts, like having a wiper stalk, a volume knob, and a driver instrument cluster (this last one isn't so subjective - it is a downgrade to lose that in the MYLR). Also, the MME still has mechanical door latches, which can come in handy for not burning to death.
• Software: The MME's software is a little buggy and laggy, but overall it is fine. Just fine. It isn't nearly as smooth and it sometimes is not as intuitive as Tesla. You can pick a nit here or there, but overall Tesla is the software king. Ford's software should get better, over time, but I wouldn't hold your breath thinking it'll catch up to Tesla anytime soon. But you DO get Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with the MME - a big omission from Tesla.
• Driver Enhancements: As with all things software, Tesla's Autopilot seems more refined overall than Ford's CoPilot-360 suite of driver aids, but the MME does offer cross-traffic alerts and a 360 camera, both of which are another big omission from Autopilot. And BlueCruise allows true hands free driving at least on highways, although Autopilot's lane centering appears to be just as reliable if you don't mind resting a hand (or an ankle weight) on the wheel. This obviously doesn't include Tesla's Full Self Driving. It you're willing to pay $10,000 more for that, then you're not seriously considering a MME anyway.
• Cabin and Rear and Frunk Capacities: Little differences here and there, but overall pretty darned similar. Don't believe the published numbers - judge for yourself.
• Efficiency and Range and Charging Speed: The MYLR is more efficient - you might squeak out 0.5 to 1 more mile per kWh than with the MME. That greater efficiency will never translate into savings due to the massive price premium. And it doesn't translate into better range because the MME 4X has the bigger battery. But you can charge the MYLR back to full-ish maybe 15mins faster, which might matter if you do a lot of road tripping, and that extra efficiency is "helping to save the planet."
• Public Charging: Like cell coverage, this can vary, but overall Tesla still maintains the edge in charging network. And likely will continue to have this edge for at least a few more years. Again, this only really matters if you don't have access to home charging or plan to do a lot of road tripping.
• Brand: This might be the biggest difference of all. The Tesla MYLR is a Tesla. The Ford Mustang Mach E is a Ford. If the logo on your car is like, really important to you or your social credit score, choose accordingly.

There you have it. Pick which things are more important to you, and then choose accordingly.

this is a great comparison @Mirak. do you have any insights on ride comparison .. which one is firmer/bouncier/smoother ....

 

[thetbg]

this is a great comparison @Mirak. do you have any insights on ride comparison .. which one is firmer/bouncier/smoother ....

I have been test driving a Y/3 and a mach e, and I find the ride on the mach e extremely bouncy, I prefer the ride of the 3/y, it feels more stable to me. This is my subjective perspective.

 

[MABachE131]

I have been test driving a Y/3 and a mach e, and I find the ride on the mach e extremely bouncy, I prefer the ride of the 3/y, it feels more stable to me. This is my subjective perspective.

Which MME?

 

[thetbg]

Which MME?

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[MABachE131]

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You should try the GT if this is your complaint.

 

[Mirak]

I have been test driving a Y/3 and a mach e, and I find the ride on the mach e extremely bouncy, I prefer the ride of the 3/y, it feels more stable to me. This is my subjective perspective.

I don’t have a great recollection of the MY, but I’ve heard similar comparisons. The Mach E has a pretty cushy (bouncy) suspension.

 

[thetbg]

You should try the GT if this is your complaint.

i would love to try a GT, but then the price becomes out of what i budgeted for my vehicle.

 

[MachEZRt1]

Have you seen this detailed comparison? Some good insights. Sorry if someone else posted this, the comments so far are tl;dr

https://insideevs.com/features/557040/tesla-modelyp-ford-mache-gt/

 

[ARK]

i would love to try a GT, but then the price becomes out of what i budgeted for my vehicle.

Assuming we are comparing free colors, a MY starts at $58,990, while a Mach-E GT starts at $61,995, which reduces to $54,495 with the tax credit. A fully loaded non-PE GT (assuming a free color) is $66,735, which comes out just a shade more than the MY when the tax credit is factored in, i.e. $59,235. This excludes destination for both.

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