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I still have it as a “maybe” on the road course.
Have been out of town all week for work so only managed to pick up GTPE from dealers late on the weekend before going away so not really had a chance to really take the GTPE for a proper spin.

Add in my reasons for the going for the GTPE where purely down to the magneride for the beaten up rubble that is passed of as freeway that I use for the commute which I can thankfully say it does a great job of dealing with that any performance was really a bonus, a magneride premium would have fine for me but Ford don't sell those.

However I did manage to take GTPE briefly down one of one of the twisty canyon roads I know well on the way back from the dealers, and early impression on this front is that it feels like it rotates around the center like all good fords do :), but the steering ratio is way to slow for a performance vehicle, I don't expect mk4 focus ST levels of response but the variable ratio steering in my mk3 focus ST / fixed ratio of the mk3 focus RS are way better than the shopping trolley ratio the GTPE has :(.

The GTPE is sure footed and it hides the weight pretty well but it can't escape physics when pushed, the instant torque will help on corner exit and I will need to wait until I have gotten fully comfortable with the GTPE but my initial impression is that when fully used to it down the same bit of road I will be at best as quick as I was in the focus RS that the GTPE replaced despite the RS having a considerable power deficit.

So It will really depend on the road course as to how well the GTPE does if it can play to the strength of using that surge of torque out of corners then it will probably do well, if it has long straights then forget it. Which leads on to the acceleration using my butt dyno (will have to do proper tests when I have a chance) the initial pull is there but it tails off rapidly so people will easily get the feeling the car is a lot faster than it really is, for those after performance if Ford can fix this issue and allow the acceleration to actually be sustained then it will not disappoint (top speed aside)

As it stands right now, if you went in with the mind set of the performance being a bonus like me you will probably be satisfied, if however you are going in expecting the same acceleration carrot you get with a telsa performance variant, make sure your test drive covers your use cases otherwise you may be in for a big disappointment.
 

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Is it too much to ask for 1 lap at 100% then the remainder at 75-80 though?

Personally I won’t track the car. But there are definitely situations I want more than 4 seconds of full power.
I don’t know, I’m the wrong guy to ask, I track my SS and the 4X is for my wife. My next is track toy will be a GT350, so I guess that says where I’m at in this.
 

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Oh and it seems like Tesla has figured out the battery degradation issue with the Plaid:

Tesla Model S Plaid completed the 41st quarter-mile run in just 9.96 [email protected] mph. Launching even at a low 20% SoC, the Plaid performance can still embarrass many ICE sports and modified cars at the dragstrip.”

www.teslaoracle.com/2021/08/28/heres-how-fast-the-model-s-plaid-is-after-40-quarter-mile-runs-and-at-a-20-state-of-charge/
But only 1/4 mike at a time buddy ???

And Brooks from dragtimes cools that thing down too, it ain’t run after run after run.
 


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But only 1/4 mike at a time buddy ???

And Brooks from dragtimes cools that thing down too, it ain’t run after run after run.
Sure, but still running 9 second 1/4 mile passes at 20% charge after 40 previous runs is a feat.

The Mach E can’t make it to the 1/8th mile on a single pass without pulling power.

The two are so far apart it’s sad. (Meaning how long it takes before you lose power).

As far as cool down time goes, he ran 40 runs in a single night!! When exactly would he cool down? Could only be a few minutes between runs.
 

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Oh and it seems like Tesla has figured out the battery degradation issue with the Plaid:

Tesla Model S Plaid completed the 41st quarter-mile run in just 9.96 [email protected] mph. Launching even at a low 20% SoC, the Plaid performance can still embarrass many ICE sports and modified cars at the dragstrip.”

www.teslaoracle.com/2021/08/28/heres-how-fast-the-model-s-plaid-is-after-40-quarter-mile-runs-and-at-a-20-state-of-charge/
And did you catch the part where the author says a Dodge Demon goes through an entire tank of gas in one race? Or the part where the “author” says certainly an ICE vehicle can’t make 40 1/4 mile runs in a night? Who TF wrote that trash? What TF is teslaoracle.com?
Good grief.
 

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And did you catch the part where the author says a Dodge Demon goes through an entire tank of gas in one race? Or the part where the “author” says certainly an ICE vehicle can’t make 40 1/4 mile runs in a night? Who TF wrote that trash? What TF is teslaoracle.com?
Good grief.
Yeah, the demon thing was clearly a joke.

And I‘ve been to the drag strip enough times in my life to agree. I’ve never seen a 9 second ICE run 40x in a night, let alone 40x all in the 9s.

I may not be a huge Tesla fan, but that’s still impressive nonetheless.
 

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Sure, but still running 9 second 1/4 mile passes at 20% charge after 40 previous runs is a feat.

The Mach E can’t make it to the 1/8th mile on a single pass without pulling power.

The two are so far apart it’s sad. (Meaning how long it takes before you lose power).

As far as cool down time goes, he ran 40 runs in a single night!! When exactly would he cool down? Could only be a few minutes between runs.
We’re back to square one. “Night”. Idk, we used to run 2 dozen passes at Friday test n tunes back in the day and that was with parking to ice the intake manifolds after 4-5 back to back runs and grab a snack too. 4-6 hrs at the track gets you lots of runs, especially if you’re renting it out and there aren’t a ton of others running.
 

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We’re back to square one. “Night”. Idk, we used to run 2 dozen passes at Friday test n tunes back in the day and that was with parking to ice the intake manifolds after 4-5 back to back runs and grab a snack too. 4-6 hrs at the track gets you lots of runs, especially if you’re renting it out and there aren’t a ton of others running.
I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

Are you trying to say it’s not impressive that it runs 9s at 20% charge or that it does it after after 40 runs or both?

What would it take to impress you?

Fastest production car on the planet.

You- so what? Call me when it runs 8s. ?. ?

Did you also notice the 9 second run was on the street on the drive home? How is that not impressive? Dodge Demon isn’t doing that and the Demon is impressive too!
 
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I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

Are you trying to say it’s not impressive that it runs 9s at 20% charge or that it does it after after 40 runs or both?

What would it take to impress you?

Fastest production car on the planet.

You- so what? Call me when it runs 8s. ?. ?

Did you also notice the 9 second run was on the street on the drive home? How is that not impressive? Dodge Demon isn’t doing that and the Demon is impressive too!
Yeah, the demon thing was clearly a joke.

And I‘ve been to the drag strip enough times in my life to agree. I’ve never seen a 9 second ICE run 40x in a night, let alone 40x all in the 9s.

I may not be a huge Tesla fan, but that’s still impressive nonetheless.
Dial it back a notch. The Plaid is impressive. It’s also a purpose-built Model S designed solely to stroke the Ego of Elon, on his orders no less. $130K, 3 motors, Big AF HV pack. MME GT is for regular folks. You’re essentially comparing a 992 911 Turbo S to a Mustang GT. I don’t really know what else needs to be said at this point.
 

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I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

Are you trying to say it’s not impressive that it runs 9s at 20% charge or that it does it after after 40 runs or both?

What would it take to impress you?

Fastest production car on the planet.

You- so what? Call me when it runs 8s. ?. ?

Did you also notice the 9 second run was on the street on the drive home? How is that not impressive? Dodge Demon isn’t doing that and the Demon is impressive too!
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if ever there was a milktoast review, we just saw it.
 
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if ever there was a milktoast review, we just saw it.

First of all, it's "milquetoast". Secondly, this was just a first drive impression not a review. Lastly, in the comments section they say it was a viewer's vehicle car and not a press car.
 

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First of all, it's "milquetoast". Secondly, this was just a first drive impression not a review. Lastly, in the comments section they say it was a viewer's vehicle car and not a press car.
hey no offense or malice intended.

people will criteek YT videos. i post 'em too.
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