Mileage Complaint

[Trevor]

You should probably read up on WLTP estimates vs. real-world range. Sorry to say that your lack of awareness is the problem, not the Mach-E's performance.

Also, I am curious. Do you *need* 335 miles on a daily basis? Or are you just upset because the number on the screen is different than your desire?

I usually use the car for local and up to 150 mile trips, but, when I use the car for work (not done for 18 months, since covid), it is for long trips, e.g. to London and back in a day. I will simply need to stop on the way there and back.

I have a meeting next week and it is 120 miles away. No charging stations near, or at the location. None at the hotel. It is showing 253 as the range, so not the 'buffer' I was hoping for and thought I had purchased.

Yes, I know, I'll probably get more if I drive it carefully, but believe me I've been trying to max this out, to little effect.

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[Graystar-MLP]

I usually use the car for local and up to 150 mile trips, but, when I use the car for work (not done for 18 months, since covid), it is for long trips, e.g. to London and back in a day. I will simply need to stop on the way there and back.

I have a meeting next week and it is 120 miles away. No charging stations near, or at the location. None at the hotel. It is showing 253 as the range, so not the 'buffer' I was hoping for and thought I had purchased.

Yes, I know, I'll probably get more if I drive it carefully, but believe me I've been trying to max this out, to little effect.

My AWD ER was showing about 250 miles on a full charge for the first two weeks, which is what I expected and is fine, but has slowly increased as it learns the way I drive. Gave it a full 100% charge last night as I have a Uni drop off trip from Bucks to Exeter today and it is showing 280 miles! and I know it will be better than that. I won’t try to get the full 348 miles though and have planned a stop on the way back. if you do 240 miles I think by the time you get back you will still have a buffer of 30-40 miles on Fords conservative estimate.

 

[Trevor]

Just think of all that coin you will be saving charging to 100% at home. Not sure the round trip mileage but if you can find a place to suck a bit of juice at work it would be good. Even 8 hours @ 120V on the little ford travel charger would be good and maybe reduce that 30 minutes to 15? You should get a feel for it as things progress. For me the quite stress free driving makes it worth It.

Appreciate the comments. Work is 150 yard trip for me, so only ever walk, even in the rain.
When I use the car, it is often for longer trips to client sites and finding parking, let alone charging at some of them is an issue. Will have to select where I stop en route more carefully and select the right services.

 

[Shayne]

Thanks. Appreciate the response. For me, I wanted to be able to go to London and back for work. I expected to stop en-route, but would need to stop in both directions for at least 30 minutes each. Not the end of the world, ut not what I signed up for.

Appreciate the comments. Work is 150 yard trip for me, so only ever walk, even in the rain.
When I use the car, it is often for longer trips to client sites and finding parking, let alone charging at some of them is an issue. Will have to select where I stop en route more carefully and select the right services.

You need to plan trips a bit more in-depth for an EV but once that trip is done you can refine it and off to the races.

Still have not provided mileage and route to get input into the best way to do that from people in the know here much better than I. As noted your travel charger plugs into anything you can find so it is at the hotel with an extension cord and you need to figure it out. Sounds like big time commutes therefore the gas must have been killing you. I always flew home faster than there .

EPA range is questionable for some. WLTP is higher than the EPA range. Take it from there.

Here is mine for comparison it is off a bit I think (conservative) but do not care as I have worked out my long travel plans and they are conservative. I do not mind kicking back and charging for a bit. I drive in the high 90% highway. Todays temp 55F range was higher when warmer. It is what it is and was fully documented and researched prior to us buying. The 12% buffer and 80% DCFC cliff did not help for our 100 KWh both revised after my order but I bought it anyway and understood the range I was buying. 310/0.85/1.6 = 230 miles. You want more slow it down to 50-55 mph and see what you get.

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

After reading 11 pages of comments (whew) at least I’ve learned something:
1. Consumers should educate themselves before spending £40,000+ ?
2. Don’t trust a car salesman ??
3. European range estimates are totally unrealistic for all EV’s due to the test structure (this was actually news to me so I AM better educated) but this is widely known and goes back to #1.
4. Drivers who don’t drive in the manner the car is tested don’t get the range the test resulted in. ?
5. All of this is Ford’s Fault ?

 

[dbsb3233]

I have a meeting next week and it is 120 miles away. No charging stations near, or at the location. None at the hotel. It is showing 253 as the range, so not the 'buffer' I was hoping for and thought I had purchased.

Just remember to take that 253 on the GOM with a grain of salt. Every drive is different (speed, elevation, temp, wet/dry, wind, etc). It can easily vary 10-15% from that number, or more. The GOM only uses some unknown recent amount of driving as it's basis to estimate range.

More accurate is the mi/kWh (MPK) number for your current drive. If you leave home with 100% (88 kWh), and need to go 240 miles round-trip, that's 240 / 88 = 2.7 MPK. Watch your current trip meter to ensure you're staying above that for that drive. Preferably 3.0 or better, as that should mean you'd arrive with 10% or more.

Also note that as the weather turns colder, or the roads are wet or windy, that will shrink. You might be able to make it fine in the summer, but some winter days could be a bit dicey.

 

[dbsb3233]

Appreciate the comments. Work is 150 yard trip for me, so only ever walk, even in the rain.
When I use the car, it is often for longer trips to client sites and finding parking, let alone charging at some of them is an issue. Will have to select where I stop en route more carefully and select the right services.

You'll probably want to familiarize yourself with the DCFC chargers in the area, and might need to detour a bit to stop at one to get a quick boost on the longer drives that would be cutting it tight. Plugshare is a good app to check them out. Looks like there's a number of DCFC stations scattered around you.

 

[JRT]

My trips are always under 70 mph, in fact my average speed is closer to 60 as I rarely jump on a pure interstate for most of our destinations. I've been running to 30% stop for 25-30 min and back to 80%. Shockingly my Plug and Charge has worked seamless.

 

[Shayne]

Also note that as the weather turns colder, or the roads are wet or windy, that will shrink. You might be able to make it fine in the summer, but some winter days could be a bit dicey.

I was getting 19 to 22 KW/hr in the summer at the 20C range saw 31 at -15C this past winter. If the air is denser the drag is more and nothing likes the cold. Red is a no go for my charger spacing and only 80% charge. Blue is 90% I would love ford to shift the cliff to 90% ?‍ for the blue moon when that happens. Really can not see me just flighting down ? the highway at 55 mph but who knows. Based on below you know where my speed is sitting. I have not tested the cold to any conclusions to date.

Prior to purchase table based on dyna test results (0.7) and not EPA.

 

[tymons]

Yeah, I just got my SR RWD (273miles range) in the UK few days ago. It only displays 209 miles when charged to 100%. Do you guys know if this is going to change? I was told by someone that the battery needs to format for 2-3 weeks and the car needs to learn my driving style to then display the actual range. Is that true?

 

[dbsb3233]

Yeah, I just got my SR RWD (273miles range) in the UK few days ago. It only displays 209 miles when charged to 100%. Do you guys know if this is going to change? I was told by someone that the battery needs to format for 2-3 weeks and the car needs to learn my driving style to then display the actual range. Is that true?

Well, yes and no. Yes, the range meter (which we call the GOM for Guess-O-Meter) will change as you get more driving history on it. But even after that, it tends to be a bit conservative, and tends to jump around some. Remember that it's only an estimate, not what your real range will be. That's because there's no way to know what your range really is, since mileage varies greatly based on driving factors. High speed uses more power. Cold outside temps use more power. Headwinds use more power. Elevation climb (even modest) uses more power. Wet roads use more power. Range can easily vary +/- 20% or more.

So yes, your 209 will likely improve over time. But no, it's not your actual range anyway, just a loose estimate.

 

[Jpb32587]

I'm confused- looking up the 1st Edition Range turns up this result:
This First Edition Mach-E draws power from its standard 88-kilowatt-hour "Extended Range" battery pack paired with a single-gear transmission and motors at each axle to create all-wheel drive. The combination produces 346 hp and 428 lb-ft of torque and offers a range of up to 270 miles.

I'm not sure where you've seen 335 mile range but the top EPA range of a MME is 305 on a California Route 1

I assume OP is KM

 

[Rex]

Driving very carefully the range calculated from the mile/kWh exceeded the spec of my car by 100 miles on a reasonable journey. However nobody was behind me or they may have dragged me out and done me harm had I stopped at a junction.
My calculations, driving the car as I used to drive my Mondeo (ie no real attempt to be range economic), give me a range of 320 miles on the RWD Extended range. 379 predicted if you drive as per the test. I like numbers and keep a spreadsheet. I can predict my range and charge times better then the car or the FordPass app.
Also be aware that the small print does warn when it gets cold your battery will not perform to the quoted figures.

 

[BluberryMacheRout1]

I have been extremely happy with my range. Rated for 230 miles, but I average between 250-275.

Have you taken delivery? I assume not if you are trying to reject it.

Where does it say 335 miles for an AWD extended? I have the Extended Cal Route 1 RWD and at 100% it’s been showing about 320 miles. Ford claimed 305. I only charge it to 280 or 290 but have had no issues. Owned mine since May.

 

[UK-Buyer]

I can’t search to look it up, but I don’t believe 335 is the extended range all wheel drive range.

I have the Route 1 with the extended battery, rear wheel and I believe it has the highest range of all the models at 305. Having AWD would push that number down, I thought the AWD were in the 275 range.

Hi
The European spec or maybe the non first edition, is different,.
The Range for the UK AWD extended edition is definitely 335 on the Ford UK Web site along with a 0-60 of 5.8sec which I believe is also different to the US spec. I also believe the European version has different suspension tuning for European roads, but that may not be true.
As for the actual range 292 is the best I had on the GOM so far but It's only done 135 miles so far so who knows how true this is.

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