Plug and Charge Working!! (was avoid plug and charge for now)

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

I found that the entire charging curve is a bit depressed on 150 kW chargers. Do you see that? I've only tried a couple of 150s though.

of course they are depressed. they are sad they aren't the 350 kW chargers.

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[mr_raider]

YES WE KNOW YOU LIVE IN PARADISE BILL

"I LIVE IN HAWAII" BLAH BLAH BLAH

YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP RUBBING IT IN

??

Considering big Island is 93 miles across, I would agree with him.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Considering big Island is 93 miles across, I would agree with him.

we don't island size shame on this forum. ???

 

[benk016]

I found that the entire charging curve is a bit depressed on 150 kW chargers. Do you see that? I've only tried a couple of 150s though.

I still have not gotten a 350kw charger to work. I also haven't had to use DCFC since its warmed up and I can get anywhere I need to go without stopping.

The highest I've seen my car hit so far is only 91kw. I need to plan a trip somewhere just to test out charging with it being warm out.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Considering big Island is 93 miles across, I would agree with him.

230 miles around on the belt road though. This is why an ER AWD MME was mandatory.

Fuzzy logic FTW.

 

[ChasingCoral]

230 miles around on the belt road though. This is why an ER AWD MME was mandatory.

Fuzzy logic FTW.

Only need SR range with the malasada stop.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I still have not gotten a 350kw charger to work. I also haven't had to use DCFC since its warmed up and I can get anywhere I need to go without stopping.

The highest I've seen my car hit so far is only 91kw. I need to plan a trip somewhere just to test out charging with it being warm out.

Interesting. 350s have worked for me. I may try more 150s just to see the difference, though.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Only need SR range with the malasada stop.

You'll need the extra torque from the AWD ER to get going after a stop at Punalu`u Bakery Mark. Logic.

 

[The Electric Duo]

Interesting. 350s have worked for me. I may try more 150s just to see the difference, though.

The one time I tried fast charging at EA, I had 2 failures on 350 stations and one failure on a 150 station. ?‍

You'll need the extra torque from the AWD ER to get going after a stop at Punalu`u Bakery Mark. Logic.

I didn't officially measure, but the AWD ER that I have feels faster than the AWD SR that I tested. I know it is supposed to be faster, but I was curious if I could actually feel the difference and I do. I am really looking forward to testing a GT. That must be crazy.

 

[Brademcee]

I fast charged for the first time yesterday on a EA 150KW Charger through Ford Plug-In and it worked perfect. It saw my car and authorized it with almost no interaction. I started at 48% charge and got up to 80% in about 29 minutes (106 miles of added range at 33KW added). Woodfield Mall EA Chargers. So it was a good experience for me. I never got above 90KW and averaged about 80KW speeds.

 

[generaltso]

@OutofSpecKyle talked about it on this week's Inside EVs podcast.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

@OutofSpecKyle talked about it on this week's Inside EVs podcast.

his argument was a bit bizarre to be honest.

"imagine releasing an F-250 you couldn't put diesel in to" so an F-250 can pay for gas without interacting with the pump?

Plug and charge is clearly not there yet, but suggesting that is the same as not being able to charge at all is just weird. Especially since charging on the way back in the worked just fine with the EA app.

now, the idea that the charging curve is not sufficient or whatever is a different argument, and Tom gets into that a little bit, but that's not saying the same thing.

 

[OutofSpecKyle]

his argument was a bit bizarre to be honest.

"imagine releasing an F-250 you couldn't put diesel in to" so an F-250 can pay for gas without interacting with the pump?

Plug and charge is clearly not there yet, but suggesting that is the same as not being able to charge at all is just weird. Especially since charging on the way back in the worked just fine with the EA app.

now, the idea that the charging curve is not sufficient or whatever is a different argument, and Tom gets into that a little bit, but that's not saying the same thing.

Your average buyer wouldn’t know to not use P&C and instead activate with EA app. I’m saying if a normal person, on this software version plugs in their Mustang, based on my testing and experience, they will not be able to seamlessly charge. Imagine having the fueling pump stop over and over and having to wait multiple minutes standing outside for it to reconnect - just unacceptable.
This isn’t to say I don’t like the car, just that this wasn’t sorted before launch

Kyle

 

[SteelMach]

Your average buyer wouldn’t know to not use P&C and instead activate with EA app. I’m saying if a normal person, on this software version plugs in their Mustang, based on my testing and experience, they will not be able to seamlessly charge. Imagine having the fueling pump stop over and over and having to wait multiple minutes standing outside for it to reconnect - just unacceptable.
This isn’t to say I don’t like the car, just that this wasn’t sorted before launch

Kyle

While I agree, that presumes the average buyer has been able to get P&C *turned on* which from the number of posts on here and lack of dealer knowledge, I bet a large portion of owners are spared the P&C issue simply because nobody at the dealer helps them register for P&C.

 

[generaltso]

Your average buyer wouldn’t know to not use P&C and instead activate with EA app. I’m saying if a normal person, on this software version plugs in their Mustang, based on my testing and experience, they will not be able to seamlessly charge. Imagine having the fueling pump stop over and over and having to wait multiple minutes standing outside for it to reconnect - just unacceptable.
This isn’t to say I don’t like the car, just that this wasn’t sorted before launch

Kyle

Yeah, if P&C wasn’t sorted, it probably should have been held back and activated through OTA later. I’m really starting to think VW has a good reason for not including it on the ID.4 at launch. @OutofSpecKyle, have you been able to test P&C on a 2021 Taycan to see if it works any better?

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