Polestar or MME?

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Would definitely like to see that for the Mach E (and Tesla Y also didn't appear to be listed)
(and chevy Bolt while wanting things to compare too...)
Bjorn is in Norway, so he's only able to test vehicles available there. I'm sure once the Mach-E and Model Y reach Europe, he'll do it for those too.
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Less shrimp in frunk, but more horses on the wheels
 


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That Frunk looked worst in class pitiful.
Would be ok for carrying portable charging cables, and maybe some other misc tools. You could say it's no worse than the average ICE vehicle.
 
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Yo what’s up. Edited version is online now.

Interesting video. Some issues with the handshake apparently. Testla is unbeatable in the 1000 km test.
Seems there are some growing pains with Polestar. Higher consumption due to the shape of the car but I assume MME will be not much better being a SUV.

Will be an interesting comparison in practise if MME is available
 

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Late-Breaking News: Polestar not super efficient!

Ford Mustang Mach-E Polestar or MME? 1602034420278

92 combined city/highway
96 city
88 highway
37kWh/100 mi.
233 total range
 

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It's amusing to me that there's talk of the P2 being better when it's literally being recalled as we speak for not being able to do the basic thing a car is supposed to do, which is drive from point A to point B.

honestly I can't imagine why anyone would trust them with anything right now. "car stopping while in the middle of the road" is not a small problem (it's literally a life-threatening problem because it can be a direct cause of a life-ending crash) and it speaks to a major lack of basic testing and quality control in the software at a level that should be embarrassing for all concerned.

literally nobody should buy another one until the 2000+ that shipped in an incredibly deadly configuration have been out there for many months and many thousands of miles/kilometers with no deadly recalls happening.

this is not a Volvo no matter what dealer you happen to get it from (remember in the US Volvo dealers are not in any way involved in the car) and can't be trusted to have the same safety reputation, clearly.
 

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from https://www.greencarreports.com/new...rns-233-mile-range-rating-well-behind-model-3

Polestar 2 earns 233-mile range rating, well behind Model 3
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BENGT HALVORSON OCTOBER 7, 2020

https://www.greencarreports.com/new...ns-233-mile-range-rating-well-behind-model-3#
EPA range ratings released Monday for the Polestar 2 electric car are lower than what the automaker had previously expected for the model, which arrives in the U.S. soon.

The Polestar 2 goes 233 miles on a full charge, according to the EPA test protocol, while it earns a combined rating of 92 MPGe, or 37 kilowatt-hours per 100 miles (2.7 miles per kwh).

To compare it to a vehicle with similar specs: The Tesla Model 3 Long Range, with about the same usable capacity as the Polestar’s 75 kwh (78 kwh gross), manages 330 miles, according to the EPA.

Polestar had made an earlier estimate that the 2 would achieve about 250 miles in the U.S. range test. Then in August, Polestar presented to the media—including Green Car Reports—an independent test result obtained for four vehicles all run at 70 mph on a track, with the climate control set at 72 degrees Fahrenheit and the outside temp at 85 degrees.

In that, the Polestar 2 achieved 205 miles—a much higher percentage of its range rating than the Tesla Model 3, at 234 miles. And the Polestar 2 with the Performance Package traveled 197 miles, while the Jaguar I-Pace and Audi E-Tron went 188 and 187 miles, respectively.

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2021 Polestar 2

Polestar isn’t the only automaker with range ratings that didn’t live up to expectations. The most efficient version of the Porsche Taycan lineup, the Taycan 4S, only managed a 203-mile rating. And like Polestar, Porsche hired an independent testing firm, AMCI, that then demonstrated that the Taycan can go significantly longer in real-world driving—even rapid highway driving—than its rating indicates.

Based on highway drives of the Audi E-Tron, we also believe the 2019 model’s EPA rating of 204 miles could be exceeded quite easily in mild, real-world conditions.

As for the Polestar 2, we eagerly await a follow-up drive with this fastback, and to prove the range ratings wrong.

The Polestar 2 is the first electric vehicle to come from a joint EV development group based in Sweden that also developed the 2021 Volvo XC40 Recharge SUV. Because the XC40 Recharge has the same battery pack and power systems as the Polestar 2, but more weight and a taller body, we’d expect that the way this is going, the Volvo will land somewhere closer to 200 miles when range ratings arrive for that later in the year.
 

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I think Ford will be more accurate (or at least err on the more cautious side in it's estimates), but still wanting real numbers.... do we have any idea when there will be government official numbers?
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