'Precondition Now' Button

Would you still want a "Precondition Now" button if you had to wait 45 minutes or longer?


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I'd like a preconditioning button because when I am traveling I sometimes charge at locations that are not part of the Ford network OR I have not navigated to a charger (I've navigated to an ultimate destination or to a charger that is not in the Ford network) and I'd like to stop and charge on the way.
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That would be a good addon for scheduling "only once" check mark. I hit charge to 100% before leaving on long trips to warm all up and so it does not sit at 100% too long.

I just did this exact thing. Trip tomorrow morning - Plug in car now so I don't forget. Click Charge to 100%. Set a departure time for tomorrow morning. Car sits at 100% all night. Remember to delete departure time tomorrow so it doesn't warm up next Thursday will I'm sitting in my home office working.

Would have loved to enter a one time trip, charge to 100% and be ready to leave at 8a...
 

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I may not use it all the time, but if it were an option it would get used
 

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Please answer the poll considering that it might take an hour or longer to fully precondition a cold car in the winter (that's just how long it takes to warm up both the battery and cabin). If you left early, the cabin would still be cold because the battery is heated first.

Scenario: You wake up in the morning and want to go somewhere unexpectedly (and you didn't have a departure time set). You hit the "Precondition Now" button in FordPass around 8 AM, and you are told you have to wait until about 9 AM. How does this make you feel? Would you wait or not?

This is my vision of what such a feature might look like in FordPass. The "View Chargers" button would turn into "Precondition Now" when you are plugged in. When you hit the precondition button, the battery would start heating and FordPass would display the estimated time to finish. While running, you'd have the option to stop preconditioning or switch to remote start (cabin heating only).

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I would fire up my classic Jeep Commander.
 

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Please answer the poll considering that it might take an hour or longer to fully precondition a cold car in the winter (that's just how long it takes to warm up both the battery and cabin). If you left early, the cabin would still be cold because the battery is heated first.

Scenario: You wake up in the morning and want to go somewhere unexpectedly (and you didn't have a departure time set). You hit the "Precondition Now" button in FordPass around 8 AM, and you are told you have to wait until about 9 AM. How does this make you feel? Would you wait or not?

This is my vision of what such a feature might look like in FordPass. The "View Chargers" button would turn into "Precondition Now" when you are plugged in. When you hit the precondition button, the battery would start heating and FordPass would display the estimated time to finish. While running, you'd have the option to stop preconditioning or switch to remote start (cabin heating only).

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New owner here so please be patient with newbie questions. Not clear to me if I need to be plugged into my home charger when I precondition my cabin using the remote Ford app. The online article I read wasn’t clear - just said I could use the onboard Charge Settings (car is plugged-in) or the app (silent on plug in status). Haven’t preconditioned yet - only owned the car for a few weeks and still learning this whole new way of driving!
 


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I’d also like for it to be part of the public facing API that allegedly is coming out. Let me control it via iOS/my home automation/Alexa whatever. Status lights to show its ready in the house but maybe I just have control issues.
 

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I would vote no, a precondition button is not needed if departure times worked effectively. No need for a precondition now button if the departure times actually worked and was faster response times In FordPass. Would rather see a better redesign of departure times in the app than a precondition now button.
 

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I’d use a pre-condition now button especially as settings NEVER work when set up on the ‘phone App
FWIW, my car has finally started communicating with the phone for departure schedules again. It hasn’t done so in 6 months or so. I’m not sure if it was 4.2.5 or a FP update, or something else. But if either of the first two, they really ought to cover this in the patch notes.
 
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FWIW, my car has finally started communicating with the phone for departure schedules again. It hasn’t done so in 6 months or so. I’m not sure if it was 4.2.5 or a FP update, or something else. But if either of the first two, they really ought to cover this in the patch notes.
They've been doing stuff with the servers this past week, probably unclogged a lot of stuff that hasn't been working right for months, at the same time creating or exposing new problems.

4.2.5 also clears out all codes, so that could have an effect too. If 4.2.5 fixed an issue, a 12V reset probably would have done the same.
 

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They've been doing stuff with the servers this past week, probably unclogged a lot of stuff that hasn't been working right for months, at the same time creating or exposing new problems.

4.2.5 also clears out all codes, so that could have an effect too. If 4.2.5 fixed an issue, a 12V reset probably would have done the same.
Thanks Lee. I honestly don’t care why it works, I’m just glad it does again. Hopefully that means fewer people with the issue. That’s a good thing. Walking to the car to set up the departure time isn’t that big of a deal here — even with our brutally mild winters. ;)

Preconditioning isn’t a long thing here, even in the winter (low to mid 40 mornings) , but it does make a noticeable difference in electrons used on some drives.
 

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I don't see the value. Preconditioning's value is in maximizing range. The only times I would need it is when taking trips. For those occasions, setting a departure time before bed isn't that onerous. I'm already in the app changing the max charge to 100% anyhow. Otherwise, for the daily trips, I don't need maximum range.

If the battery is conditioned while driving or while plugged in, it's still using energy. It might be a bit more efficient to do so plugged in (all driving would be at nominal efficiency), but the energy savings are negligible. Setting cabin temperature 5-10 minutes before leaving is good enough. I'm concerned about my comfort, not the battery's while running errands and such. The battery can recharge when I get home.
 

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Preconditioning the battery and driving with the battery at its optimal temperature is supposed to help with battery longevity.
 

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When I need to charge to 100% for a trip and outside temperature is cold,
I try sync my departure time with charge complete time so the battery is already preconditioned or at least warmer and the cabin is toasty when I leave.
 

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I don't see the value. Preconditioning's value is in maximizing range. The only times I would need it is when taking trips. For those occasions, setting a departure time before bed isn't that onerous. I'm already in the app changing the max charge to 100% anyhow. Otherwise, for the daily trips, I don't need maximum range.

If the battery is conditioned while driving or while plugged in, it's still using energy. It might be a bit more efficient to do so plugged in (all driving would be at nominal efficiency), but the energy savings are negligible. Setting cabin temperature 5-10 minutes before leaving is good enough. I'm concerned about my comfort, not the battery's while running errands and such. The battery can recharge when I get home.
I generally agree, but right now, the system is set up to work best for daily recurring activities and be very difficult to use for one off longer trips, which is when you really need it. You have to set up a departure schedule (then go to the car to make sure it actually connected and set the time). And then after you leave on your trip, you need to remember to go in and cancel out the departure schedule. You also need to manually time when to start charging to 100% so it doesn't sit there too long.

What we really need is some type of one time trip setting. I am leaving at 8am, so please have the car pre-conditioned and charged to 100%. We don't have that, so a "Pre-condition Now" button gets us some of that functionality.

"Pre-condition now" can also help with unexpected longer trip. If you get a call and need to leave in ~30 minutes, you can hit the button to get as much charge and preconditioning as possible before you leave.
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