Reluctantly making the switch to iX3

[Herbknowsit]

"If so does this bring into a question of battery health " down the road"?
worth examining for sure-I'd take long battery life over faster charging time but who wouldn't love both?

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[Billyk24]

Off the top of my head both Tesla Y (400v) and Rivian R2 (450v claimed) state 28 minute charging time to 80%. I have not seen battery temperatures associated with this. I have only seen 104f on my Mach E 1x during a dcfc session in July when it was 85f.

 

[wmaney]

This is from BIMMERPOST:

I The new BMW iX3 utilizes an advanced active thermal management system with liquid cooling/heating to keep its high-voltage battery at an optimal temperature. This ensures peak performance during driving, prevents overheating, and preconditions the battery for maximum DC fast-charging speeds. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Key Battery Regulation Features

• Automated Thermal Management: The vehicle actively heats or cools the battery while driving and charging to maximize efficiency and prevent degradation.
• Intelligent Pre-conditioning: To achieve the iX3's maximum DC fast-charging speeds (up to 400 kW), the battery must be at an optimal temperature. The car preconditions the battery in two main ways:
  • Navigation Routing: Entering a DC fast charger as your destination automatically preconditions the battery along your route so it's primed as soon as you arrive.
  • Manual Activation: You can also manually trigger the "Prepare battery" feature via the My BMW App or the in-car Panoramic iDrive system.
• Winter Efficiency: In freezing conditions, preconditioning the vehicle while plugged into the grid allows you to warm the battery and cabin without draining your driving range, assisted by the standard heat pump.

 

[E90alex]

Off the top of my head both Tesla Y (400v) and Rivian R2 (450v claimed) state 28 minute charging time to 80%. I have not seen battery temperatures associated with this. I have only seen 104f on my Mach E 1x during a dcfc session in July when it was 85f.

Tesla targets between 40-50°C (104-122°F) when Supercharging.

This is why battery preconditioning is much more important on a Tesla than on the Mach-E which only targets 75°F.

 

[ChehRob]

Ford's first foray into a serious EV was likely better than BMWs. But the MME battery charging has always been a little slow, and now even long in the tooth.

 

[kamorela]

After reading your post, I am unable to
“Un-see” the teeth!

Get you one of these

 

[SonicBlue]

I don’t see beaver teeth. I see pig nostrils. The grill is a very noticeable and very unfortunate blemish against what appears to be an otherwise pretty good option.

The bigger battery coupled with faster charging would make a significant difference on road trips. Additional range may eliminate interim charging stops altogether for trips of up to 300 miles. That would be a big deal for me.

Still not a big enough improvement to justify dropping another $60k, though. Sticking with my First Edition until a clear upgrade which is truly valuable emerges.

 

[NY_Cade69]

...
Key Battery Regulation Features

• Automated Thermal Management: The vehicle actively heats or cools the battery while driving and charging to maximize efficiency and prevent degradation.
• Intelligent Pre-conditioning:To achieve the iX3's maximum DC fast-charging speeds (up to 400 kW), the battery must be at an optimal temperature. The car preconditions the battery in two main ways:
  • Navigation Routing: Entering a DC fast charger as your destination automatically preconditions the battery along your route so it's primed as soon as you arrive.
  • Manual Activation: You can also manually trigger the "Prepare battery" feature via the My BMW App or the in-car Panoramic iDrive system.
• Winter Efficiency: In freezing conditions, preconditioning the vehicle while plugged into the grid allows you to warm the battery and cabin without draining your driving range, assisted by the standard heat pump.

The same features apply to the Mach-E, especially with the heat pump added, (except for the lack of a dedicated pre-condition switch), who knows what US EVs (including the Mach-E) could have been like in the alternative reality..

 

[precisionair]

Get you one of these
Could use that for late night Wal Mart pit stops

 

[Billyk24]

Tesla targets between 40-50°C (104-122°F) when Supercharging.

This is why battery preconditioning is much more important on a Tesla than on the Mach-E which only targets 75°F.

Mach e only targets 75f when pre conditioning? Where is this documented? I have never seen more than 59f.

 

[Billyk24]

This is from BIMMERPOST:

I The new BMW iX3 utilizes an advanced active thermal management system with liquid cooling/heating to keep its high-voltage battery at an optimal temperature. This ensures peak performance during driving, prevents overheating, and preconditions the battery for maximum DC fast-charging speeds. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Key Battery Regulation Features

• Automated Thermal Management: The vehicle actively heats or cools the battery while driving and charging to maximize efficiency and prevent degradation.
• Intelligent Pre-conditioning:To achieve the iX3's maximum DC fast-charging speeds (up to 400 kW), the battery must be at an optimal temperature. The car preconditions the battery in two main ways:
  • Navigation Routing: Entering a DC fast charger as your destination automatically preconditions the battery along your route so it's primed as soon as you arrive.
  • Manual Activation: You can also manually trigger the "Prepare battery" feature via the My BMW App or the in-car Panoramic iDrive system.
• Winter Efficiency: In freezing conditions, preconditioning the vehicle while plugged into the grid allows you to warm the battery and cabin without draining your driving range, assisted by the standard heat pump.

All this is marketing stuff. We actually need an independent or owner review detailing actual battery temperature and kW rates.

 

[Jimrpa]

I believe that information actually exists here on the forum. TBH, I don’t care enough to try to find it as I rarely fast charge and when on road trips, I actually don’t mind a bit of a break.

 

[ipca204]

I can't unsee the $3600 paint option for Frozen Space Silver Metallic! $3600!!!

 

[GreaseMonkey]

I don’t find the car ugly. But it is a financial disaster, with how much bmw charges for it and the high depreciation of an EV. Not in this lifetime. At least not for me.

 

[SonicBlue]

I don’t find the car ugly. But it is a financial disaster, with how much bmw charges for it and the high depreciation of an EV. Not in this lifetime. At least not for me.

I’m a big fan of early, massive depreciation. Because I’ll be buying my next EV off a short lease. It’s the only reason I would even consider a BMW or Caddy.

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