Starting to get worried now lol

[veronicablack]

Wow, you spend between 3.5-4 hours a day commuting? You wouldn't happen to be in the trombone repair business, would you?

Haha thank you for teaching me about this joke/reference. Love it.

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[Mach-Lee]

Stop killing your battery by charging to 100% every day, this will only make your range worse with time. Should charge to ≤90% daily and get home with at least 10-20% left. If you can't make that in the cold then you should switch cars so you aren't pushing the envelope and stressing the battery. Sorry if you didn't know about the cold range stuff before buying an EV, a loss of 1/3 is typical. If your daily commute is more than 50% of the EPA range (so >135 miles) it will not be feasible to drive it in the winter unless you can charge at work.

 

[Krimpy]

I took my car to Tennessee last Sunday to stay down there for the winter avoiding the horrible road salt they use here in Chicagoland. It was 37° most of the drive down and I was averaging 1.8mi/KWh at 72mph. The last time I made the drive in the spring when it was over 50° most of the time I was closer to 2.8mi/KWh. I was able to make the stretch between Indianapolis and Georgetown, KY on a charge with no issues in March, but last week, I had to go out of my way to an EA charger north of Cincy to charge enough to make that stop in Kentucky, which added almost 45 extra miles to my drive. When I got to Tennessee and charged to 100%, the GOM told me 218, not the 254 I had when I left Illinois. Long story short, the cold weather impact to range is real.

I agree those numbers you just have seem to be what I am seeing. I planned on a 30% hit but this hurts. So did the 300 tow bill. Lol
I’m not wishing I bought something else just not sure how all these other people have insane range!

 

[Krimpy]

Stop killing your battery by charging to 100% every day, this will only make your range worse with time. Should charge to ≤90% daily and get home with at least 10-20% left. If you can't make that in the cold then you should switch cars so you aren't pushing the envelope and stressing the battery. Sorry if you didn't know about the cold range stuff before buying an EV, a loss of 1/3 is typical. If your daily commute is more than 50% of the EPA range (so >135 miles) it will not be feasible to drive it in the winter unless you can charge at work.

For the record I have only charged to 100% a few times. I understand how this batter drain thing works just really seems to be hitting quite hard and we are 3 weeks out until winter. I am nervous to give it to my wife who only drives 30 miles one way to work once January hits and it actually gets cold outside. I’m sorry and maybe this is my Sconi speaking but I would not say 32 degrees is cold. For a car company out of Detroit and one that has been saying the range is great and we tested it in all conditions I highly doubt they did a month of 0 degree temps and got decent mileage. It’s bad and the EA network is not great when you stop and it will only draw 34 kw when I’m an hour plus away from home so how is that helping me even get to 80%. It won’t and it have no options but to sit on trickle charge at 34kw. Not looking to fight I just think some times people need to realize it’s not all roses especially with the awd model. It’s hardly roses. I am holding out that if Rivian can really get 400 well hell even at half I’d be at 200 miles. So that’s a huge win for cold weather. So in a couple years dump this Mach e and go with something else if Ford can not make a battery that lasts longer in the cold.

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

Stop killing your battery by charging to 100% every day, this will only make your range worse with time. Should charge to ≤90% daily and get home with at least 10-20% left. If you can't make that in the cold then you should switch cars so you aren't pushing the envelope and stressing the battery. Sorry if you didn't know about the cold range stuff before buying an EV, a loss of 1/3 is typical. If your daily commute is more than 50% of the EPA range (so >135 miles) it will not be feasible to drive it in the winter unless you can charge at work.

I don’t do 90% because
A. I drive a lot
B. I don’t think I’ll keep this car for more than 3 years (by then I’ll have more than 100k miles)
C. I charge everything else to 100% why not this?

also if I have to store my car for the winter, it’s pretty much worthless unless it’s a Ferrari/ sports car. If there are limitations on how I can use my purchase, once again it’s worthless to me. Guess the future isn’t electric for a loooong time (at least for me)

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

For the record I have only charged to 100% a few times. I understand how this batter drain thing works just really seems to be hitting quite hard and we are 3 weeks out until winter. I am nervous to give it to my wife who only drives 30 miles one way to work once January hits and it actually gets cold outside. I’m sorry and maybe this is my Sconi speaking but I would not say 32 degrees is cold. For a car company out of Detroit and one that has been saying the range is great and we tested it in all conditions I highly doubt they did a month of 0 degree temps and got decent mileage. It’s bad and the EA network is not great when you stop and it will only draw 34 kw when I’m an hour plus away from home so how is that helping me even get to 80%. It won’t and it have no options but to sit on trickle charge at 34kw. Not looking to fight I just think some times people need to realize it’s not all roses especially with the awd model. It’s hardly roses. I am holding out that if Rivian can really get 400 well hell even at half I’d be at 200 miles. So that’s a huge win for cold weather. So in a couple years dump this Mach e and go with something else if Ford can not make a battery that lasts longer in the cold.

I got to talk to a rivian engineer in ny a couple months ago. Asked a lot of questions as I had a lightning order.She said that the most annoying thing customers will have is the lack of dealership/repair center. They we’re trying to partner with local Shops to fix and maintain their vehicles. They knew it’s an uphill battle and she was straight forward with this. So rivian experience might not be in the cards for a long white.

 

[JoeMan]

One more item that I hadn't seen mentioned- there's a driver history in the settings. Reset that and the range might mysteriously improve. Another Mach E owner at work lost range (about 40 miles) after not even 3 weeks of driving and when he reset the driver history the range returned to its original higher level.

 

[ChuckA]

Man, I hate to say this but you might be like one of the very few people who probably shouldn't get an EV. 250 miles a day?

I agree with you. In CT the EV charging infrastructure is not yet in place. Even with my ER MME my wife has range anxiety. She still won’t let the MME go lower then 35%. We charge to 90%. I have an Accord Hybrid that gets 40 mpg in winter, 650 miles per tank. Ideal for long commute. (With heat on!)

 

[noname]

Man, I hate to say this but you might be like one of the very few people who probably shouldn't get an EV. 250 miles a day?

I think he is perfect fit for EV, the problem that the owner can't charge at work. You really save on gas if you need to travel that much

 

[ChuckA]

One more item that I hadn't seen mentioned- there's a driver history in the settings. Reset that and the range might mysteriously improve. Another Mach E owner at work lost range (about 40 miles) after not even 3 weeks of driving and when he reset the driver history the range returned to its original higher level.

New owners, like me, figure out the setups with the MME running. This kills the range GOM. New owners must reset history after a few weeks.

 

[noname]

Stop killing your battery by charging to 100% every day, this will only make your range worse with time. Should charge to ≤90% daily and get home with at least 10-20% left. If you can't make that in the cold then you should switch cars so you aren't pushing the envelope and stressing the battery. Sorry if you didn't know about the cold range stuff before buying an EV, a loss of 1/3 is typical. If your daily commute is more than 50% of the EPA range (so >135 miles) it will not be feasible to drive it in the winter unless you can charge at work.

Then cars should be sold with range calculated below 90% of charge.

 

[pt19713]

i read about the range loss but I didn’t expect it to be this severe. I was thinking of getting a model s, but now I’m guessing it’ll be the same rodeo.

The older Model S also have the PTC heaters, so they're not efficient in the winter. All Model Y, the newer S & X, and 2021 and newer Model 3 have the heat pump. Efficiency loss is about 15%, so not much of a range hit. My wife and I did a drive to visit her cousins, in her 2021 Model 3 Performance. Both seat warmers on, heat on, consumption was 4.07 miles per kWh at 65 mph.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I do about 250 a day.

Plan to charge daily.

 

[Blacklobo]

I don’t do 90% because
A. I drive a lot
B. I don’t think I’ll keep this car for more than 3 years (by then I’ll have more than 100k miles)
C. I charge everything else to 100% why not this?

also if I have to store my car for the winter, it’s pretty much worthless unless it’s a Ferrari/ sports car. If there are limitations on how I can use my purchase, once again it’s worthless to me. Guess the future isn’t electric for a loooong time (at least for me)

It is your car, drive it however you want to. However you did come to a forum and ask a question/for advice, so you are going to get that. The reasons why you shouldn't charge to 100% have been stated in this thread and numerous others. The advice given has been to help your ownership experience.

 

[Kabish]

This dude is doing 100% to basically dead every day lol Still harder on the battery than 90%, but if you need 100% then you need 100%. The possible alternative of charging to 90% then using a DCFC every day I would think would put more stress on the battery than just charging it on a level 2 to "100%". /shrug

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