The FOB Rules

[Garbone]

Fob is the only choice for me.

I don't even own a cell phone. (The phone I use is owned by my employer). IT dept had it for a few hours yesterday and it didn’t impact my ability to use my car.

Last night I went to dinner with my wife and we both left our cell phones at home. The idea that I need to carry my cell phone to use my car isn't acceptable to me. Not really happy about not having a physical key either but was willing to give it a try. I think my next car will need a real key of some kind.

I notice this more and more, I will leave my cell in the car just not to have to worry about keeping up with it and having it in my pocket. I would delete PAAK completely but like the Password start and do use it on occasion. Really like the keypad on the door also.

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[SnBGC]

I notice this more and more, I will leave my cell in the car just not to have to worry about keeping up with it and having it in my pocket. I would delete PAAK completely but like the Password start and do use it on occasion. Really like the keypad on the door also.

Yeah.
With my previous vehicles....I used to leave my phone in the car quite often. Now I can't do that unless I turn off the phone. So I end up taking it with me because it is easier to put it in my pocket vs waiting for it to power down and then hope I remember to power it back on later.

There might be a way to disable PaaK without losing the back up start code. I haven't had time to figure it out myself. Perhaps someone else here knows how to do that....

 

[HuntingPudel]

I notice this more and more, I will leave my cell in the car just not to have to worry about keeping up with it and having it in my pocket. I would delete PAAK completely but like the Password start and do use it on occasion. Really like the keypad on the door also.

Yes, it's kind of perplexing that you can't have the backup start code without PaaK. What if you're one of our European friends without PaaK and the battery in the key dies? Do you have to walk to a store so that you can buy a new battery? That would be kind of lame. ?‍?

 

[RockwallRick]

Yes, the FOB rules and I am thankful to Jarrett Gordon Ford of Davenport, Fl for providing us with one even though we didn’t buy the Car from them!!!

 

[skiingj]

There might be a way to disable PaaK without losing the back up start code. I haven't had time to figure it out myself. Perhaps someone else here knows how to do that....

Good question, following. Paak failed me twice today

 

[alexgorod]

There might be a way to disable PaaK without losing the back up start code. I haven't had time to figure it out myself. Perhaps someone else here knows how to do that....

If you have Paak configured on your phone, uninstall FordPass app - it won't remove the backup code from the car. Then install FP again, but don't configure PaaK, or configure it again with another code (I did just that).

 

[skiingj]

Yes, the FOB rules and I am thankful to Jarrett Gordon Ford of Davenport, Fl for providing us with one even though we didn’t buy the Car from them!!!

Jealous. I've tried getting one from the dealer I bought from and Ford. No luck. Ford + First adopters = pound sand.

 

[skiingj]

If you have Paak configured on your phone, uninstall FordPass app - it won't remove the backup code from the car. Then install FP again, but don't configure PaaK, or configure it again with another code (I did just that).

Good to know. I would imagine you would loose some remote functionality. Everything below Bluetooth Connection Status might disappear?

 

[timbop]

I’ve only had my car since Monday and my husband and I haven’t been able to set up PaaK at all on my phone. I had the fob in my purse and my car didn’t recognize it. (Wouldn’t unlock when I pushed the button.) I grabbed the fob out of my bag and showed it to the car and it unlocked. Anyone else have something like this happen?

Sometimes if the car is in "deep sleep" you have to hit the button several times with a delay in between to wake it up. It might also be that all the stuff in your purse is blocking it .

 

[alexgorod]

Everything below Bluetooth Connection Status might disappear?

Horn & Lights remains

 

[DevSecOps]

Good to know. I would imagine you would loose some remote functionality. Everything below Bluetooth Connection Status might disappear?

By removing and re-installing the FP app you also remove the digital key used to authenticate the phone to the vehicle using BT. So all BT communication will cease. This doesn't affect Sync since that's not using FP and it won't affect the OTA commands either since those are via your authenticated account.

This amounts to the loss of window up/down, frunk (if enabled) and trunk capabilities.

 

[timbop]

Not really happy about not having a physical key either but was willing to give it a try. I think my next car will need a real key of some kind.

I get why they wanted to go "high tech" with no keys, but that is a really a shortsighted decision to go along with the single fob and no spare tire option at all. Their expectation of nothing going wrong is ludicrously over-optimistic.

• If the 12 volt dies, you can't get into the car unless you take the trunk apart. There's no reason they couldn't have had a keyhole on the rear hatch hidden behind a folding license plate bracket or something
• As we've seen, if you only have paak and something goes wrong on the backend you end up having to take a 50 mile uber
• if the sidewall is damaged, the fix-a-flat is absolutely useless. The space for the mobile charger and fix-a-flat could have been modestly reshaped to make room for a donut.

 

[macchiaz-o]

I’ve only had my car since Monday and my husband and I haven’t been able to set up PaaK at all on my phone. I had the fob in my purse and my car didn’t recognize it. (Wouldn’t unlock when I pushed the button.) I grabbed the fob out of my bag and showed it to the car and it unlocked. Anyone else have something like this happen?

Sometimes if the car is in "deep sleep" you have to hit the button several times with a delay in between to wake it up. It might also be that all the stuff in your purse is blocking it .

Yep, could be something in the purse blocking the reception, or it could be the bag itself. Is it metallic, or lined with something metallic? That would attenuate (reduce) the car's reception of the fob.

 

[JSeis]

Other than initial setup..I’ve used the FOB twice in 7 months. I’ve never had an issue with PAAK I couldn’t quickly (as in seconds) resolve.

 

[KevinS]

I don't understand why on earth the FOB is so large. I use it primarily, and it could easily be at least half the size it is. Some subcontractor must've bought somebody at Ford a really nice dinner and now we're all stuck with them.

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