The Mach-E needs a REAL refresh!

[jksu]

i agree.

looking forward to what ford has cooked up in it's next compact/mid-size EV platform.

the mach-e was adapted to fit, it sounds like, more compliance-type car platform, so less performance oriented. the designers did their best (and looks-wise, did a pretty awesome job), but the platform is definitely showing it's age. it still functional as a daily driver and it's feature-set and build quality are still pretty competitive with what's out there. some of the recent model 3 revisions are just catching up to a 3 year old mach-e (ie. sound-insulating glass), while others "updates" or lack-thereof make it even less attractive to me than the gen 1 mach-e (removing shifter, still no driver's display, no rear cross-traffic, etc).

agree, the gen2 mach-e ideally would not just be a face-lift, but an entirely new platform, preferably 800v, take other learnings from gen 1 and the competition (target the macan ) in terms of efficiency, OTA updates, ride quality, etc.

the styling is still great... just widen the wheelbase a bit

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[Mantastic]

At the very least, alterations to allow for faster lvl 3 charging should be considered until they do a full on refresh a few years from now.

 

[ADDZ71]

I would think that in an EV world we will not see the complete revamp of models like we have historically experienced but rather an evolution fixing what needs fixing and a longer period before major cosmetic refreshes occur. Think about the Tesla Model S and even the Model 3 for that matter. They had runs where the structure hardly changed (different nose for the S) but that the software was continuously updated. You could actually think of the introduction of the LFP cells as a model refresh for the MME. In general, I think the run on a platform will be much longer with software and cosmetic tweaks along the way.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I thought the 2nd gen Mach-E is coming in 2025-2026? Of course that might have been pushed back with the slow sales.

I thought I remembered seeing something from one of Ford’s bigwigs that the Gen2 MME would go into production in late 2026 (from which I infer a 2027 model). ??

 

[Mach1E]

The car is barely 3 years old.

Up next will be some minor styling updates, a few new colors and some extra features.

Major refreshes on a completely brand new platform and model don’t tend to come this soon.

The ICE Mustang generations tend to last around a decade or more.

6th Gen Mustang lasted 9 years. 5th gen 10 years and 4th was 11 years.

https://www.autolist.com/ford-mustang/ford-mustang-generations

And the 7th generation Mustang? Seems like just a mild refresh of the 6th.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

I would think that in an EV world we will not see the complete revamp of models like we have historically experienced but rather an evolution fixing what needs fixing and a longer period before major cosmetic refreshes occur. Think about the Tesla Model S and even the Model 3 for that matter. They had runs where the structure hardly changed (different nose for the S) but that the software was continuously updated. You could actually think of the introduction of the LFP cells as a model refresh for the MME. In general, I think the run on a platform will be much longer with software and cosmetic tweaks along the way.

For Tesla, it’s the opposite. They make both small and major changes to their cars all the time. They implement the changes when it becomes available. They just don’t change the exterior or interior often.

 

[Mach1E]

For Tesla, it’s the opposite. They make both small and major changes to their cars all the time. They implement the changes when it becomes available. They just don’t change the exterior or interior often.

What are the major changes?

The 2024 S, X, 3 and Y all seem pretty much the same as they all did the first year they came out. Different battery and power options on some, but not much else it seems.

 

[llinthicum1]

I thought the 2nd gen Mach-E is coming in 2025-2026? Of course that might have been pushed back with the slow sales.

The last I saw G2 platform to start production July, 2026. Haven't seen anything where that has changed.

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

Yeah, but we need cars with new technology soon because in California we will all have to buy a new car in 2026 if this law gets passed. So glad all of the other problems in California are solved so that they could worry about us driving too fast.
Sorry, speeders: New bill would require speed-limiting devices in California cars

Mike you don't need to worry about that. Even in the unlikely case that the law gets past, it would apply only to new cars. "The measure, Senate Bill 961, would require every passenger vehicle, truck and bus manufactured or sold in California to have speed governors starting in 2027." [Emphasis added]. (To be clear, I don't support this bill even though the sponsor is my state senator. I plan to write him a letter expressing my concerns.)

 

[randomvoice]

Most cars will usually have a 4-5 year cycle between major releases. Don't expect a new Mach E before that. Out of the list there, the only thing that they might add to all cars is Magneride to the mid-cycle launches. The 800v update and significantly more range is probably not gonna happen until the major refresh which is at least two years out if not more.

I honestly like it this way since you don't have buyer's remorse a year or two later after making a big purchase. I feel more and more manufacturers are following the phone release cycle where they are moving to more iterative updates vs a huge change.

 

[oadesign]

I've thought about this as well. There's really nothing on the market that even grabs my attention. I don't feel the look of my Mach is dated, so there's that. We'd all love more miles and faster charging, that'll take more than Ford to improve. Magnetic ride would be killer to have, but again, not a deal breaker. I may just purchase mine when time comes. It still makes me smile when I get behind the wheel, and I have zero regrets with that.?

Oh, and I never use my frunk, so that's not a thing either.?

We use the frunk every week when my wife and I go grocery shopping. Everything we need fits in it, and after pulling in to the garage, everything is up front and close to the door, making unloading a breeze. It's a small feature that we truly appreciate.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

What are the major changes?

The 2024 S, X, 3 and Y all seem pretty much the same as they all did the first year they came out. Different battery and power options on some, but not much else it seems.

The y had their subframes changed, moving to a cast process.

the S has had multiple battery types. Initially had 18650 cells then moving to 2170 cells. But even within those cell types the power density had steadily improved.
Their computer hardware has also improved throughout production.

 

[DadzBoyz]

2025 will be about as much of a refresh as the Mach-E will get before the Gen 2 BEV's come out.
Expect things like:
- NACS Charge Port to replace J1772/CCS
- Possibly Android Automotive based Sync (5.x) to replace the current Blackberry/QNX based Sync (4.x)
- New Colors
- New Wheels
- New front bumper/grill/'stash
- Different interior materials
- Possibly different steering wheel hub/airbag cover

The last three are the least likely, but possible.

 

[nvabill]

The car is barely 3 years old.

Up next will be some minor styling updates, a few new colors and some extra features.

Major refreshes on a completely brand new platform and model don’t tend to come this soon.

The ICE Mustang generations tend to last around a decade or more.

6th Gen Mustang lasted 9 years. 5th gen 10 years and 4th was 11 years.

https://www.autolist.com/ford-mustang/ford-mustang-generations

And the 7th generation Mustang? Seems like just a mild refresh of the 6th.

This is a little misleading as to generations of the ICE Mustang. The first generation is listed as 1965-1973, yeah right! I give you a 1965 and a 1973, don't know about you but no way they should be classed as the same generation!

 

[Mach1E]

The y had their subframes changed, moving to a cast process.

the S has had multiple battery types. Initially had 18650 cells then moving to 2170 cells. But even within those cell types the power density had steadily improved.
Their computer hardware has also improved throughout production.

None of those things sound major to me. Just incremental changes.

They all look and drive like the same car.

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