TPMS won't learn sensors

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Last summer we picked up a set of Michelin X-Ice mounted on new wheels from Tire Rack, and tucked them away in the garage until the snow fell this year for use on our 2025 GT.

First problem when I went to put them on the car was that Tire Rack had sent a set of lug nuts for the wrong stud size! But who needs a second set of lug nuts really so that was easily remedied. The second, though, was that the TPMS never learned the new sensors. We drove about 200 miles the next day; it never picked them up; I got home, ran the manual relearn, took the left front tire all the way down to 25 PSI and it never picked it up. Tried a 315MHz Ford sensor actvation tool; no luck.

I called Tire Rack back and we agreed they'd probably installed the wrong sensors along with sending the wrong lug nuts. They sent a new set, which are Schrader part 20452. Yesterday I finally found my BeadBuster, broke the bead on the right front tire (easiest one to get at with the car in my garage), and was surprised to see that the installed sensor was a...Schrader 20452.

Now I'm a little baffled. I fired up Forscan and see DTCs for both sensor signal failure and TPMS system fault, but they won't clear (or won't stay cleared, hard to tell). Maybe the Schrader sensors installed in the wheels are bad, or maybe it's my bad luck and just the left front, which goes first in the retrain procedure, is bad or the wrong part? It's a little hard to confirm but the 20452 does look like one of several 315Mhz Schrader sensors that should work in this application.

I don't really trust tire shops to lift my Mach E without damaging the battery rail but I guess maybe next step is to take it in to one and let them see what they can do - at least they should be able to read the sensors through the tire with their tool, right? That tool is a little pricy for me.

There was no TPMS issue at all with the stock tires/wheels.

Any suggestions?
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You can “borrow” a TPMS reader / programmer from Autozone through their loan-a-tool program, if you want to try it yourself.
 

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No learning is required, you just drive. Since the sensors didn't get picked up, they are the wrong sensors... A thread a while back guessed they had changed, you now confirmed it.
 

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I think The Tire Rack sold you the wrong sensors. As Rick said above, no learning is required. I just purchased last month 8 TPMS's from TPMS.com for my new winter and summer staggered setups. Within less than 5 miles the car learned the sensors. No programming necessary. I have been buying sensors from them for years.

https://www.tpms.com/product-p/ggl-tss-set-63.htm
 

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The 2025 uses 433mhz sensors. I purchased the rally rims from Ford, and they came with 315mhz TPMS sensors. Had winter tires mounted on the rally rims but the car couldn't find them. Wound up getting a TPMS tool and scanned my key fob and the original factory wheels--both were 433.
 


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Neither Tire Rack nor TPMS.com (recommended above) list a 433Mhz sensor for this application - in fact neither of them show a sensor for the 2025 Mach E at all, just "2021" matches. I really hate to pay $60+ each for the Ford part...does anyone have a cross reference?
 

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Yeah I'm guessing the problem is 315 MHz vs. 433 MHz sensors. Try SCHRADER 29018 which is the 433 MHz version.
 

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If you follow the tpms.com link above and look up the 2025 Mach E, it actually has listing for both the 315 and 433mhz sensors.
Ford Mustang Mach-E TPMS won't learn sensors Screenshot_20260118_175053_Samsung Internet
 

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The 2025 uses 433mhz sensors. I purchased the rally rims from Ford, and they came with 315mhz TPMS sensors. Had winter tires mounted on the rally rims but the car couldn't find them. Wound up getting a TPMS tool and scanned my key fob and the original factory wheels--both were 433.
This is interesting. I know that Mach-E’s in China and Europe use 433 while here in the US they are 315. Maybe Ford decided for 2025 here in US they would use 433 like everywhere else?
 
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OK, so TPMS.com shows Schrader 33500 as one of the possibilities for a 433MHz sensor for the 2025 Mach E. What's the difference between this and a 21098? Except that it's much cheaper, which is nice.
 
 







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