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[SteveUk]

Thanks, that offers some positive hope

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[SJ_Okay]

RE: Insurance.

Anyone else notice in one video, the reviewer was playing with a setting that can save your driving data and send it to your Insurer? Seems to be a built in black box type setting.

 

[SashaLondon]

A few questions that I have thought of while watching the videos.
1 if you don’t have the 360 cameras can you get the sentry cam update?
2 I saw that in America there is a new system where the car connects to the charger network when plugged in and you don’t need to use an app or anything to start charging. Is this available in the UK/ Europe.

 

[Wonky_Donkey]

if you don’t have the 360 cameras can you get the sentry cam update?

Is this a thing? Heard lots of people asking for it, but hadn’t heard that Ford had said yes to adding it.

 

[Marcel]

A few questions that I have thought of while watching the videos.
1 if you don’t have the 360 cameras can you get the sentry cam update?
2 I saw that in America there is a new system where the car connects to the charger network when plugged in and you don’t need to use an app or anything to start charging. Is this available in the UK/ Europe.

I have this already with my e-Golf and Fastned...so it depends mostly on the chargers.

 

[Spensaf]

No-one appears to have a clue/know why the cars are stacking up built at the factory but not being shipped. This is starting to smell a little dodgy? Warning bells ringing?

I'm in international trade finance. There is a worldwide shipping problem at the moment. Here's a snippet of the problem. When Covid hit China early last year, the shipping took that hiatus to de-commission and repair many vessels thinking demand would be slow to pick up. They got it wrong to freight rates have risen dramatically and has led ships and containers not "being in the right place".

BY THE MARITIME EXECUTIVE 12-16-2020 08:33:56

The global shortage of shipping containers has become one of the most hotly discussed issues in the shipping industry as 2020 draws to a close. There have been reports that exporters have not been able to ship their goods while carriers have been struggling to get containers where they need them. One shipping executive quipped on a media call that he would pay a reward if anyone could tell him where to find 20,000 boxes.

Despite the reports of disruptions and freight costs rising to record levels, the maritime research and analysis firm Drewry is out with a new report that says the problem is not a shortage of supply but rather a logistics problem. They suggest the problem is being driven not by underinvestment but repositioning issues, exacerbated in part by the carriers having blanked so many sailings in the first part of the year.

 

[portlandg]

As a follow on from @Spensaf recent post, I have just been onto Grimaldi's schedule from Veracruz and where last week there was 3 ships leaving port to go to Antwerp by the end of Dec. Now there is only 1. There is 2 leaving in January and 2 in February so space is limited to get the cars to UK/EUR. However this can, and probably will, change again. Probably next week.

 

[richresroc]

Been reading quite a lot of comments about delivery times etc. Might be a bit of a controversial stance but I'm definitely not surprised by how its turned out. People that place pre-orders put down a refundable deposit with no order placed. Without an order being placed, lead times of 4-6 months are pretty normal for new cars. Much better than Tesla... The fact that they are able to honour those orders and still promise similar delivery times for new orders is a testament to them in this difficult time. If preorders had of been processed before the car went on general sale then that would be different. But in that case a lot of people wouldn't be happy being pressured to commit to an expensive vehicle very few people have seen. Perhaps Ford should have given people who preordered the option to actually preorder. But letting people wait for the car to be released and expertly reviewed before asking people to commit maybe isn't the worst thing they could have done.

I also think if all the first editions were all on the road months before the others they could be more easily targeted by thieves knowing that they will be rare in years to come.

I know you guys are frustrated as you've been waiting a long time. I think Fords other issue is that RH drive cars will be a very small minority of sales. So there isn't a constant stream of them coming off the Mexican production line

 

[Spensaf]

Been reading quite a lot of comments about delivery times etc. Might be a bit of a controversial stance but I'm definitely not surprised by how its turned out. People that place pre-orders put down a refundable deposit with no order placed. Without an order being placed, lead times of 4-6 months are pretty normal for new cars. Much better than Tesla... The fact that they are able to honour those orders and still promise similar delivery times for new orders is a testament to them in this difficult time. If preorders had of been processed before the car went on general sale then that would be different. But in that case a lot of people wouldn't be happy being pressured to commit to an expensive vehicle very few people have seen. Perhaps Ford should have given people who preordered the option to actually preorder. But letting people wait for the car to be released and expertly reviewed before asking people to commit maybe isn't the worst thing they could have done.

I also think if all the first editions were all on the road months before the others they could be more easily targeted by thieves knowing that they will be rare in years to come.

I know you guys are frustrated as you've been waiting a long time. I think Fords other issue is that RH drive cars will be a very small minority of sales. So there isn't a constant stream of them coming off the Mexican production line

The main problem with what you have said above is that cars were actually made before the pre-orders were converted into actual orders. A number of people on here already have their VINs and can see their cars are finished and in Mexico. Ford UK gave the pre-orders to Ford US/Mexico for production.

 

[kamtheman]

An update from me with a April Pre-order on a ER RWD in black who wanted to change the colour. I have been told by Rebecca that I am unable to confirm to order until 21st December. Mainly due to their technical difficulties in the order process. and the colour change I want to make.

TBH, this doesn't bother me at all. Every month wait is more opportunity to save for a bigger deposit. I am doing about 50 miles a month atm with COVID anyway!

I am seeing the car in Orpington (1 hours drive!) as the car isn't due in Guildford until January. I have a few questions I hope can be answered. I'd really prefer to drive it before confirming the order but the dealer confirmed I am in no obligation to follow the order through if I hate the test drive (unlikely it seems, watching all the reviews).

Graham, one thing I am having last minute doubts over. RWD in the UK rainy weather with all that torque. What do you think? I am a sales rep and so will be doing about 20k a year in all weather. I have lingering thoughts of slipping around at every roundabout when it rains!!! I don't want to be scared of snow either. I drive an Xdrive at the moment and it's brilliant.

However, there is such a range and charging speed drop by going to a SR AWD. I don't think that is an option.

 

[richresroc]

The main problem with what you have said above is that cars were actually made before the pre-orders were converted into actual orders. A number of people on here already have their VINs and can see their cars are finished and in Mexico. Ford UK gave the pre-orders to Ford US/Mexico for production.

Fair enough but if they have produced them then they're not going to want them sat around by choice. They'll be losing money every day they are.

 

[richresroc]

An update from me with a April Pre-order on a ER RWD in black who wanted to change the colour. I have been told by Rebecca that I am unable to confirm to order until 21st December. Mainly due to their technical difficulties in the order process. and the colour change I want to make.

TBH, this doesn't bother me at all. Every month wait is more opportunity to save for a bigger deposit. I am doing about 50 miles a month atm with COVID anyway!

I am seeing the car in Orpington (1 hours drive!) as the car isn't due in Guildford until January. I have a few questions I hope can be answered. I'd really prefer to drive it before confirming the order but the dealer confirmed I am in no obligation to follow the order through if I hate the test drive (unlikely it seems, watching all the reviews).

Graham, one thing I am having last minute doubts over. RWD in the UK rainy weather with all that torque. What do you think? I am a sales rep and so will be doing about 20k a year in all weather. I have lingering thoughts of slipping around at every roundabout when it rains!!! I don't want to be scared of snow either. I drive an Xdrive at the moment and it's brilliant.

However, there is such a range and charging speed drop by going to a SR AWD. I don't think that is an option.

I'm in exactly the same boat. Think the extra range and efficiency is worth it but that being said some of the early reviews claiming even the AWD is tail happy. Deliberately to give the car a mustang like feel. I personally think if you stick it in whisper in the wet it'll be ok. Snow will be another issue entirely but having winter tyres/chains should remove that issue too. Depends if you're expecting to drive in the snow more than a day or so a year. Need to see some of the more long term reviews. The cars reviewed up to now have been pre production so I don't necessarily buy into all the issues being stated just yet.

 

[Spensaf]

Fair enough but if they have produced them then they're not going to want them sat around by choice. They'll be losing money every day they are.

Mentioned elsewhere, there are shipping delays due to ships and containers not being in the right places in the world.

 

[Spensaf]

Fair enough but if they have produced them then they're not going to want them sat around by choice. They'll be losing money every day they are.

Also, If they were so concerned about income, they would have prioritised the premium models.

 

[portlandg]

@kamtheman and @richresroc The choice of RWD or AWD is and has to be purely personal. I do not want to influence you one way or the other but I will give the reason why I went for the ER RWD.
I haven't driven a rear wheel drive car since 1982. All but the last 2 have been front wheel drive. My last 2 cars have been AWD Kuga's and I have been grateful for the AWD system once in all that time (nearly 6 years). The main reason for the AWD choice was because they offered more power to my right foot.
My MME original order was for a SR RWD which I preordered on 29 Feb having cancelled a Peugeot e2008 that day. When I found out the spec of this version (virtually nothing) I thought about the SR AWD but that didn't fair much better although it did have the better seats. So it was the ER RWD fully booted and spurred. Then the Chancellor changed the rules on the PICG which put my choice out of the range. Good old Ford though. They lowered the price so that it qualified. Thankyou and happy days. I don't really need the range, my commute to work is 16 miles round trip, but as I am getting older I want to spend less time at work and more time away(current circumstances allowing) so extra range will be useful. My choice therefore over RWD than AWD was made on purely aesthetic reasons and not practical. Living on the South Coast we don't get a lot of snow. It does rain a lot and can get icy but not enough to warrant another £7000 (or £10000 if you factor in the PICG). I wanted the tech and the comfy seats to better what I have already or there is no point getting a new car, so that when I do make the odd road trip I will be as comfortable and relaxed as possible. Black (wasn't keen on the other colours) ER RWD it is then. Whatever you choose I hope it comes soon and you are happy with your decision.

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