Very slippery when wet. Looking for advice

[Mach1E]

but, the old Pontiac Grand Prix commercials told me otherwise! ?

Lol I had a 98!

That was a fun car.

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[Raymondjram]

but, the old Pontiac Grand Prix commercials told me otherwise! ?

Wider track between wheels is better for stability but wider tires are not better. Besides, a wider track is a bigger collision risk when driving in heavy traffic jams. Only car racers want wider tracking. For the layperson driving in traffic, a thinner car width is safer and better but bad for wide occupants inside.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Lol I had a 98!

That was a fun car.

my gf had ... a GTP, a 97 maybe? it was faster than my '95 Mustang GT convertible - she could leave me behind at a light and never look back. and it had a HUD! it was actually kind of an amazing car all things considered.

 

[MachTee]

I drove my MME in absolutely pouring rain couple weeks ago (Ida). It was something like 3" of rain in an hour. The car handled it with absolutely no issue, with the stock 19" Michelin. Everyone has a different idea of what is "not pushing it hard". I really have to question the driving habit. If coming from a FWD vehicle, going to a high/instant torque RWD vehicle will probably need some adjustments to the driving habit.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Wider track between wheels is better for stability but wider tires are not better. Besides, a wider track is a bigger collision risk when driving in heavy traffic jams. Only car racers want wider tracking. For the layperson driving in traffic, a thinner car width is safer and better but bad for wide occupants inside.

I was kidding of course (I included a Looney Tunes picture!) but your points are taken nonetheless.

 

[ZuleMME]

I drove my MME in absolutely pouring rain couple weeks ago (Ida). It was something like 3" of rain in an hour. The car handled it with absolutely no issue, with the stock 19" Michelin. Everyone has a different idea of what is "not pushing it hard". I really have to question the driving habit. If coming from a FWD vehicle, going to a high/instant torque RWD vehicle will probably need some adjustments to the driving habit.

Yep, even worse if you shift from a german car to an american car. They really feel quite loose in comparison but it's not actually that bad. It's just a difference in how it "talks" or "feels" to you.

 

[SyNRG]

Like most have said, start with tires.

I'd add driver as well (in general, not a knock against OP).

I had a S197 GT, survived El Nino, El Nina, whatever rainstorms we got between 2005-2013 (and I came from FWD cars previously), takes sometime getting used to but can't just mash the go pedal with RWD, especially when road conditions are against you. Have to modulate the go pedal, get a feel of how the car reacts depending on input, and if it's raining I'm doing 5-10 under the speed limit in all of my cars regardless of FWD/RWD/AWD.

 

[sotek2345]

I'd add driver as well (in general, not a knock against OP).

I had a S197 GT, survived El Nino, El Nina, whatever rainstorms we got between 2005-2013 (and I came from FWD cars previously), takes sometime getting used to but can't just mash the go pedal with RWD, especially when road conditions are against you. Have to modulate the go pedal, get a feel of how the car reacts depending on input, and if it's raining I'm doing 5-10 under the speed limit in all of my cars regardless of FWD/RWD/AWD.

100% agree. I drove my 2011 GT500 through 2 NY winters (and did so with a couple other mustangs before that). Always a good time passing the trucks and SUVs stuck on the side of the road on my way in to work. Tires are important (I had dedicated snows), bu driver skill is critical. It is all about modulating the accelerator, and counter-steering as needed.

 

[TruWrecks]

might want to try the $0 option first and check the tire pressures.

BTW. I find it hard to believe that I am the only person on this forum that knows how important tire pressure is to grip.

 

[harrysiii]

I uhhh... Would recommend upgrading to a GT for the wider tires. Just saying lol

Nah, just better tires especially those geared toward wet traction. Many manufacturers have junk stock tires for cost savings, EPA ratings, etc. I've replaced many from new cars well before the tires were worn because they're junk.

But, yes, the GT Performance tires are wonderful and you could just get that instead. ;-)

 

[ARK]

Question for @noname, does your wife happen to drive with one pedal driving on?

If so, if she lets off the accelerator in turns with the idea that she will be coasting (not accelerating, but not braking either) as many drivers do, she would inadvertently be applying a notable, moderate amount of braking force and could be losing traction for this season.

In addition, you have a RWD. Something that I haven’t seen discussed too much on this forum is that regenerative braking can only apply on an axle with an electric motor. I’m not sure if the RWD Mach-E or other RWD or FWD electric vehicles can compensate somehow (e.g., by engaging the friction brakes on the other axle whenever OPD kicks in?), but full blown regen from one pedal driving could only apply to the rear axle on a RWD Mach-E.

So if she were driving with OPD and all of a sudden lifted completely off the accelerator in a turn while in a RWD Mach-E, might her car be applying a significant amount of braking on the rear wheels, but none at all in the front?

It’s worth noting that with conventional brakes, all cars have brake pads on all wheels such that when you hit the brakes, you get a stopping force applied to both the front and rear of the vehicle.

 

[RickMachE]

My experience across multiple vehicles is that many people complain about tires, and change them easier than I change underwear, yet I have the same tires and don't have that experience. We've put 3,500+ miles on the car, and I think the tires are fine.

I also have stock Goodyears on my 2013 F-150, original tires, and have never had an issue, yet people say they can't drive in light snow... Much is due to the driver IMO.

 

[Guy]

Hello, may I disagree here. I’m 64, had numerous cars in my life and never felt the need to change the stock tires on any car except the Mach-E. Installed Continental Extreme contacts and the car is transformed.

 

[Mach1E]

My experience across multiple vehicles is that many people complain about tires, and change them easier than I change underwear, yet I have the same tires and don't have that experience. We've put 3,500+ miles on the car, and I think the tires are fine.

I also have stock Goodyears on my 2013 F-150, original tires, and have never had an issue, yet people say they can't drive in light snow... Much is due to the driver IMO.

Now imagine what you could do with the proper tool/equipment!

The higher performance your vehicle, the more difference tires will make.

On my SS with a tune, the stock tires would spin all through first and 2nd and kick out a little on the 1-2 shift.

Piliot Sport 4s tires…… hook up, even on the street. Night and day difference. But they should be better for $400/tire.

 

[RickMachE]

Now imagine what you could do with the proper tool/equipment!

The higher performance your vehicle, the more difference tires will make.

On my SS with a tune, the stock tires would spin all through first and 2nd and kick out a little on the 1-2 shift.

Piliot Sport 4s tires…… hook up, even on the street. Night and day difference. But they should be better for $400/tire.

I don't think you and I drive the same.

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