What are your Electric Rates

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Just curious, what kind of electric rates do you have? Where I live, if you sign up for Electric Vehicle Rate (value charging) the local power company gives you 400kw free per month (12am-6am), 4 cents per kw 12am-6am over 400kw. Off peak 7.3 cents per kw (6am-1pm), and peak hours 1pm-9pm 13 cents per kw. From reading this forum, many seemed concerned with power bills.
And where are you located?
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Just curious, what kind of electric rates do you have? Where I live, if you sign up for Electric Vehicle Rate (value charging) the local power company gives you 400kw free per month (12am-6am), 4 cents per kw 12am-6am over 400kw. Off peak 7.3 cents per kw (6am-1pm), and peak hours 1pm-9pm 13 cents per kw. From reading this forum, many seemed concerned with power bills.
When all of the charges and fees are included in the cost per kWH, it works out to $0.115 off-peak with DTE Energy. Peak rates are a bit more than twice that. I have my L2 charger on a separate meter and on an EV-specific rate program. Time of day off-peak is 11 PM to 7 AM weekdays, plus all-day on weekends and most holidays.
 

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Apparently it's optional. I'm super curious how that would work in conjunction with net metering.

https://www.inquirer.com/business/p...t-service-tou-rates-time-of-use-20201204.html
Yes, it is optional and requires the customer to purchase generation through PECO. I have gone through a couple of different suppliers for generation over the last few years but lately PECO's own rates have been very competitive - they claim to charge customers at their purchasing cost on the wholesale matket, whether that is true or not I have no way of knowing, but I am tired of switching among suppliers as a yearly exercise.
 


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From my February bill:

last bill for 3309 kWh (home is primarily electric heat with a heat pump for when it can be used):

First Energy cost (distribution, etc.): $135.06 / 3309 = $0.041/kWh
AEP cost (generation; all renewable or offset): $145.27 / 3309 = $0.044/kWh
Total: $280.13 => $0.085/kWh

no peak/off-peak stuff, no EV rate stuff, it just costs what it costs.

the generation cost is locked for a time, then will be variable after that or I can lock it again for a time.
 

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My base rate in Vermont is $0.1685/kWh, but then they add an "energy efficiency charge" of $0.0118/kWh, so that means I pay a total of $0.1803/kWh, which isn't great. The power company does provide a ChargePoint Home Flex for free and a $1500 rebate on the purchase of an EV. They have a few different EV plans that reduce the rate a little for charging off-peak. My current EV plan with them just gives me a flat $10/mo discount for having an EV. I would lose that if I signed up for one of the reduced rate plans, so I probably won't change anything. I'm planning to do most of my charging at work for free, so I like the idea of getting the $10/mo credit even if I don't charge at home at all. I'd have to use about 250kWh of charging at home a month for one of the reduced rate plans to make more sense. We'll see how it goes.

What's really annoying is right across the lake in Plattsburgh, NY the regular rate is about $0.04/kWh.
 
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0.10 flat, Seattle.
 

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Thanks for rubbing it in…PG&E (NorCal) EV TOU rates

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Quoted above is the PG&E summer rate for EV owners who don't install a separate meter. Most people are served by PG&E in northern California (June to Sept). I'm on this rate as well.

Winter rate is cheaper:
* 18, 35, 37 for off-peak, part-peak, peak in winter (Oct to May)
* 18, 39, 50 in summer (June to Sept)
 

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Here’s the plan I’m on in metro Detroit.

Ford Mustang Mach-E What are your Electric Rates 10B81B0B-CF31-483C-A698-3F70A8AA4C69
 

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Actually @Kamuelaflyer will have the last word on this...
Residential Electrical Rates baseline rates start at 30.4 ¢ per kWh for the first 300 kWh, then rise from there. According to the utility, the average cost per kWh for residential service is 36.7¢ per kWh. We're essentially off-grid using the grid for backup only and I'll be charging the MME from our solar system during mid-day hours.

You can add a TOU setup for an EVSE but those require a separate meter. The cost can be significantly cheaper if, and only if, you restrict use to mid-day.

DCFC out here is 51¢ per kWh during mid-day ( 9 am to 5 pm) and peaks at 61¢ per kWh at off-peak (10 pm through 9 am). All are 50kWh chargers too.
 

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My rate is $0.05230/kWh 8pm-3pm on weekdays and all day on weekends and 10 holidays. I do have a huge demand charge, but that only applies during peak hours of 3pm-8pm on weekdays. The peak rates are $0.06376/KWh winter and $0.08683 summer.
 

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Damn you guys are (mostly) making my Kansas rates look like a steal.
 

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Southern California Edison has differing "Time of Use" Rates. We're on TOU-PRIME, which is $0.16/Kwh from 21:00-16:00 Pacific time, $0.41/Kwh 16:00-21:00 PT for winter rates. Summer rates increase by .01/Kwh for off-peak and .03/Kwh for peak rates. Add to this a 5% City of Huntington Beach excise tax.

As expensive as this sounds, and it is, we generate 90% of our power with solar and have 3 x Tesla Powerwall-2s installed (39 Kwh). So, our electric bill isn't much, and we both work from home.

Our gas bill is a joke - less than $200/year, including gas hot water, dryer, stove, etc.

Overall, compared to what I hear that my work colleagues in FL, TX and NJ spend on electricity and gas, our overall bill is modest. And for that we can thank Coastal Orange County's near-perfect year-round weather.
 
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Wow some of you have amazing rates. I'm in CA and 19 cents kwh. Which even at that rate is way less than gas. However I have solar so it's a non issue.
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