Whisper mode coasts nearly endlessly?

[Sabbaspar]

Hi all. Does anyone else's Whisper mode result in near endless coasting. A traditional ICE car typically coasts much shorter distance than this one when not touching the accelerator pedal. My Cali Rt 1 can go miles in Whisper mode costing on flat ground. Might love 1 mph per hour every 20 seconds. Really strange to the point where I underestimate how far it will go and have to jam on brakes to avoid hitting things. It is definitely not Blue Cruise, which I do have and do use on occasion. This is different and seems almost like a brick is on the "gas" pedal.

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[Mach-Lee]

Yup that's the point of Whisper. There is no regen in 2PD unless you hit the brake and minimal in 1PD mode.

 

[Neil4Real]

Hit "L" on the gear selector to have it slow down with your foot off the brake or just use 1 pedal drive.

 

[superdave80]

I wish Ford would put a 'regen' button (hold to regen) on the steering wheel so I can use that to slow down.

 

[Sabbaspar]

Hit "L" on the gear selector to have it slow down with your foot off the brake or just use 1 pedal drive.

 

[Sabbaspar]

I alternate between 1 pedal and 2 pedal drive. On downhills I feel like it keeps steady pedal pressure in whisper....rather than letting off and letting gravity do the work. It actually acclerates. Nevertheless, I am.constantly toggling between 1 and 2 pedal modes as the my route allows for.max efficiency. I do my best with 1 pedal around town and 2 on highways.

 

[Neil4Real]

I alternate between 1 pedal and 2 pedal drive. On downhills I feel like it keeps steady pedal pressure in whisper....rather than letting off and letting gravity do the work. It actually acclerates. Nevertheless, I am.constantly toggling between 1 and 2 pedal modes as the my route allows for.max efficiency. I do my best with 1 pedal around town and 2 on highways.

If you're toggling that much, you can just use the L on the gear selector, it works as 1 PD, just not as aggressively. Much easier to hit and you can also use it when you prefer to use 2 pedal, but you're coasting too much. Easy press.

 

[Sabbaspar]

If you're toggling that much, you can just use the L on the gear selector, it works as 1 PD, just not as aggressively. Much easier to hit and you can also use it when you prefer to use 2 pedal, but you're coasting too much. Easy press.

Thanks. Will do!

 

[buzznwood]

I alternate between 1 pedal and 2 pedal drive. On downhills I feel like it keeps steady pedal pressure in whisper....rather than letting off and letting gravity do the work. It actually acclerates. Nevertheless, I am.constantly toggling between 1 and 2 pedal modes as the my route allows for.max efficiency. I do my best with 1 pedal around town and 2 on highways.

I assume most models are the same when it comes to the % of lift of regen. As my GTPE has the power meter you can see what is going on and in whisper you do get a minimal amount of regen when lifting off which is typically enough to maintain speed down a hill.

As I live in a hilly area I use whisper mode all the time as the other modes cost me range as the lift-off regen slows me down on the hills to the point I need to use go the pedal and drive down them to maintain the speed of traffic.

IMO Ford locking the lift-off regen to the drive mode is pretty useless especially as they don't do custom drives modes so I need to use whisper for the regen I want but then have to put up with the vague steering weight . For a lot of people it is probably not much of an issue but any future EV purchase I may make will need to have an independent control of the regen for me to even consider it.

 

[CompilerBreak]

Whisper is much more akin to an ICE in neutral, which most people probably don't spend much time doing. In Drive an ICE will have some resistance in the drivetrain itself. For better or worse, I'm way too used to having some of that resistance, so I've gone with Engage for driving and never looked back

 

[veronicablack]

Thanks. Will do!

Just be careful -- L mode will not come to a full stop like 1PD will. It will definitely apply a good amount of regen off the pedal and slow you down more rapidly than normal 2PD, but you'll still have to apply the brake yourself if you want to come to a full stop.

 

[SnBGC]

I wish Ford would put a 'regen' button (hold to regen) on the steering wheel so I can use that to slow down.

The brake pedal does the same thing though. (Allows you to modulate the amount of regen that you desire).

Alternatively, if you just want momentary regen then you can press "L" and that is Unbridled 2PD on demand. (Unbridled has the maximum amount of regen compared to the other two modes...)

 

[Jimbo]

Ford locking the lift-off regen to the drive mode is pretty useless especially as they don't do custom drives modes so I need to use whisper for the regen I want but then have to put up with the vague steering weight .

Seconding the desire for custom drive modes. I really wish I could do Whisper's [lack of] regen with Engage's steering and throttle response.

 

[superdave80]

The brake pedal does the same thing though. (Allows you to modulate the amount of regen that you desire).

Alternatively, if you just want momentary regen then you can press "L" and that is Unbridled 2PD on demand. (Unbridled has the maximum amount of regen compared to the other two modes...)

Except I have no feedback as to how far I can push the brake pedal before the physical brake engages. And having to reach over to hit the 'L' (which I do sometimes) to turn it on and off is annoying...

 

[ctenidae]

Recognizing that this is a controversial position, I'm always struck by how willing people are to learn a new behavior where they change modes, switch gears, push a button, etc etc etc, but are unwilling to learn a new behavior where they just modulate the pressure on their right foot. Maybe it's because I've never owned an automatic transmission vehicle, and so it was easy for me to adapt to 1PD. None of the circumstances discussed so far are, in my opinion, better handled by buttons, brakes, or gear selectors than they are by adjusting my foot position.

Going down a hill and speeding up too much? Let up off the pedal a little bit until your speed is stable where you want it. The car will optimize regen to hold your speed. Slowing down too much? add a little pressure -the car will reduce regen first, before adding any power. Going too fast? Lift off a little more.

See stopped traffic up ahead? Let off the pedal a little bit to start slowing down, then let off a little bit more then a little more until you come to a stop or traffic starts moving. Need to back off a little to wait for a gap to open up? Do the same thing.

The accelerator is a rheostat, not a button - use it to modulate both power supplied and regen applied. Where you might take your foot off the gas entirely in an ICE, just back it off a little bit in an EV. Maybe I'm thick, or led a sheltered life, but anything other than 1PD to me is just inefficient or overly complicated. I'm 1PD Unbridled at all times, and have yet to find a reason to change it.

Now, custom drive modes I'm all for. Let me fiddle around with front/rear power distribution, steering weight, suspension stiffness, throttle response, braking, all that. But once you get used to the way regen is mapped to throttle position, that part is just dandy.

Edit/add-on: My wife's Taycan doesn't do 1PD, and it freaks me out that the car never ever slows down on the highway. On a flat road, I think it actually speeds up when you lift off. Of course, that just might be Porsche telling me to go faster...

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