Why the Mustang Mach E is better than the Tesla Model Y

[timbop]

Honestly, I feel like CarPlay and Android Auto wouldn't be necessary if OEM's infotainment software (Ford's included) wasn't hot garbage by comparison.

Disagree here. Unless Ford opens up their own equivalent of the play store, there's no way they could compete with a platform that literally has an army of independent app developers. Since the native apps will have the capability to control a 5000 pound moving machine, I can see why they wouldn't want to do that. AA/CP are a nice compromise; you get that army of developers to write apps that are accessible, but without opening up a huge security hole.

The recent attempt on Tesla is a case in point that proves the wisdom of locking down the car's native OS.

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[macchiaz-o]

Disagree here. Unless Ford opens up their own equivalent of the play store, there's no way they could compete with a platform that literally has an army of independent app developers. Since the native apps will have the capability to control a 5000 pound moving machine, I can see why they wouldn't want to do that. AA/CP are a nice compromise; you get that army of developers to write apps that are accessible, but without opening up a huge security hole.

The recent attempt on Tesla is a case in point that proves the wisdom of locking down the car's native OS.

Ford DID THIS through AppLink, well before CarPlay or Android Auto. It still exists:

https://developer.ford.com/pages/applink

Something on the order of one or two dozen apps currently support AppLink. Which is why no one knows about it, and why CarPlay or Android Auto are FAR superior.

In the same vein, look how few apps are supported by Tesla (a handful that are Internet connected, plus some games?).

Same with Android Automotive (in Polestar), although that will pick up some volume if a lot more cars choose to use it and if the OEMs keep the version of Android up to date (highly unlikely).

 

[Njia]

Disagree here. Unless Ford opens up their own equivalent of the play store, there's no way they could compete with a platform that literally has an army of independent app developers. Since the native apps will have the capability to control a 5000 pound moving machine, I can see why they wouldn't want to do that. AA/CP are a nice compromise; you get that army of developers to write apps that are accessible, but without opening up a huge security hole.

The recent attempt on Tesla is a case in point that proves the wisdom of locking down the car's native OS.

But how many of those native apps on iOS or Android are really available through CarPlay or AA? It's just a handful in both cases from my experience. Mostly, I've found them to be the basic functions like phone, texts, calendar, contacts, maps, and audio (Spotify, podcasts, etc.). It's not like Facebook and Twitter are going to accessible any time soon.

 

[ab13]

Disagree here. Unless Ford opens up their own equivalent of the play store, there's no way they could compete with a platform that literally has an army of independent app developers. Since the native apps will have the capability to control a 5000 pound moving machine, I can see why they wouldn't want to do that. AA/CP are a nice compromise; you get that army of developers to write apps that are accessible, but without opening up a huge security hole.

The recent attempt on Tesla is a case in point that proves the wisdom of locking down the car's native OS.

To add to your comment.

The tech companies with large ad or member supported features have massive economy of scale. Their voice recognition is going to be way better than other companies that don't have those resources, and that allows them to provide updated map information, music options, etc.. without extra charge.

On one of my vehicles they recently added Alexa because there was no way they were going to be able to provide similar functions without massive costs.

 

[SD_Solar]

Actually, that is not correct. I ran all the numbers on their web sites and for the:
Model Y in their one No extra cost White (lousy) paint choice delivered is : $51,190
The other 4 paint colors are $1,000 to $2,000 additional cost.

The Premium ER AWD is $57,700 – X Plan discount of $879.
Note: Any one can qualify for this X Plan discount with a $25 Mustang Club membership
or by owning Ford stock.

So the Mach –E cost:
$57,700 MSRP
+ $25 Mustang Club Membership
-$879 X Plan Discount
+$1,100 Delivery Charge
-$7,500 Fed Tax Credit

$50,446 Total Cost
Or $744 less than the Model Y with the only one lousy Standard paint choice.

We won’t know until delivery, but likely Ford Credit will also offer
at least a $1,000 discount to finance with them.

 

[jhalkias]

The driver is fine, and he ended up getting the car back on the mountain in 48 hours and competing, so I can make the joke . . . what is it with Tesla and those rear bumpers falling off? And he didn't even go through water!

 

[eager2own]

If we’re not taking into account savings/discounts each offers and only focusing on MSRP Instead of actual purchase price out-the-door, we’re not talking apples-to-apples.

 

[jhalkias]

Really? We know that Tesla dropped prices for two reasons . . . greater efficiency in production (i.e. sending crap out the door and letting the customer worry about it) and . . . the lack of Federal tax Credit so they could continue to compete. I am going to guess that anyone considering this car can take advantage of the full $7,500. And I am also guessing that is factored into Ford making a profit on this car.

 

[eager2own]

I expect that the vast majority of buyers will be able to have the benefit of the tax credit. For those of us who can, yes, the tax credit does matter as it does affect my price of the vehicle (in fact, Tesla used to build it into their website pricing along with the “gas savings” before they were no longer eligible to build it in).
If you’re one of the few who cannot take advantage of the credit, you are right — for you, price of the MME is not an advantage. For me and most others, it is.

 

[jhalkias]

Why is the license plate cheaper?

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

The vast majority of those considering buying a BEV do not do so based upon practicality.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Why is the license plate cheaper?

Many states the license and registration is based upon sales price or some portion of sales price.

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