Why the Mustang Mach E is better than the Tesla Model Y

[DaveRuns]

360 camera on the Mach E

360 camera that ISNT being used for security protection by the way (ex: sentry mode)

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[ChasingCoral]

360 camera that ISNT being used for security protection by the way (ex: sentry mode)

Yet

 

[efisher]

360 camera that ISNT being used for security protection by the way (ex: sentry mode)

But did you see how sentry mode sucks battery range?

 

[efisher]

The Mach E has a hands free lift gate!

 

[efisher]

A switch to adjust the wipers!

 

[darren]

Should have better paint quality.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Should have better paint quality.

A shaker can paint job is better than some of the Model Y's.

 

[Njia]

I'll start;

• More options: RWD/AWD, long range/standard range, select/premium/California Rt1/GT
• Dashboard display
• Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
• Wireless Apple CarPlay & Android Auto
• Real buttons where you need them
• Support from local dealers located everywhere
• $7,500 Federal tax credit

Honestly, I feel like CarPlay and Android Auto wouldn't be necessary if OEM's infotainment software (Ford's included) wasn't hot garbage by comparison. Tesla seems to get it right in this area, but takes it too far - they've over-indexed on aesthetics at the expense of human factors. Not everything in a vehicle should be controlled by a menu tree. I would find that annoying.

I'm really disappointed by the choices of blue on the MME (I picked Infinite Blue, but I'm questioning my choice - like, every day). As someone else pointed out, Ford has some gorgeous blue color options in its palette (including Blue Candy on the EcoSport) and this is what they picked?

Finally, range on the MME misses the mark - this is Ford's first, true EV (Focus doesn't count) but the industry's in its third gen. It should have 300 miles of usable range, period. Lacking a decent charging network with DC, it is not a practical car to take on a road trip unless you enjoy the "getting there" more than the "being there."

The only reason I'm not in a Y already is that Tesla's build quality is unacceptable, and there is no such thing as local support. If I bought a brand new, $60K vehicle and the first thing I had to do after taking delivery is get someone to park a service van in my driveway to fix panel gaps, paint issues, etc., I would be seriously pissed off. Tesla's build quality is 1970s Big Three bad.

 

[JamieGeek]

Honestly, I feel like CarPlay and Android Auto wouldn't be necessary if OEM's infotainment software (Ford's included) wasn't hot garbage by comparison. Tesla seems to get it right in this area, but takes it too far - they've over-indexed on aesthetics at the expense of human factors. Not everything in a vehicle should be controlled by a menu tree. I would find that annoying.

Android Auto and Apple CarPlay fix a problem that no automotive OEM would address--even with OTA updates: The aging of the software.

Used to be you buy a car and the software in it is what you get. Thus any navigation system you'd get would start aging the day you picked it up (sure almost all OEM's offered yearly map upgrades for $100+). Ford attempted to fix this with My Ford Touch/My Lincoln Touch by allowing the user to download the updates from the internet to a thumbdrive with very mixed results.

Now even with OTA they will likely just offer bug fixes (how many people know that the Bolt can do OTA updates to its radio? no? didn't think so). Even so when the 2019 Bolt's came out they offered a "Charge to percent" feature but explicitly said that prior years Bolt's could not be updated...hmm (yeah, ok this bugs me)

AA and CarPlay fix that because your phone is getting updated all the time and thus that UI will always be up to date. In addition, the phone's nav maps come OTA so they are always current as well. (From some of the presentations it sounds like the MME's maps will be in the cloud as well.)

I would hope Ford has picked up on Tesla's frequent updates via OTA to at least make the MME's OTA a lot more functional (and update to current instead of simply bug fixes and recalls).

 

[jhalkias]

A shaker can paint job is better than some of the Model Y's.

I watched another YouTube video with Sandy Munro yesterday on Tesla quality issues where he said if he were Tesla during Covid shutdown he would have bulldozed the paint shop at Fremont and rebuilt it from the ground up. Tesla's QC department seems to be their customers.

 

[agoldman]

One big reason is that (hopefully) the ME won't be falling apart at delivery like the average Model Y.

 

[Deleted member 367]

I'll start;

• More options: RWD/AWD, long range/standard range, select/premium/California Rt1/GT
• Dashboard display
• Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
• Wireless Apple CarPlay & Android Auto
• Real buttons where you need them
• Support from local dealers located everywhere
• $7,500 Federal tax credit

This thread just makes me giggle.

 

[trutolife27]

This thread just makes me giggle.

What makes you giggle about it? you don't think the things listed are better?

 

[JCHLi]

Oh, another couple:

1. You don't need to worry about losing your friends because you berate them for not understanding the "genius" of opening the door with a button instead of what appears to be a normal door mechanism!

2. If you have an issue with your vehicle you can complain about it without having to go into witness protection!

 

[timbop]

What makes you giggle about it? you don't think the things listed are better?

Probably the fact that the things listed aren't generally very strong/convincing "plusses". What's not listed is that you can trust ford to actually put all the parts into the car in all the right places, and that it won't fall apart when you drive through a puddle. Oh, and that you can trust ford to actually stand behind their products instead of blaming the customer.

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