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Please, in case of findings with general interest, please let me know (maybe about a flawless activation of lane change assist in Germany :) )
I've tried, my friend. With several people in your side of the world. I don't know what's missing to get it to work.
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Thank you so much! + @rugedraw
Here is what I understand I must change considering all recommendations and comparisons, let me know what you think:

jmgreen706-01-018E342215A8B0
Mine706-01-018E3C20158896
C to 4TJA Disabled
jmgreen706-01-02050000000015
Mine706-01-02000000000010
0 to 5Enable Auto Light Beam
Enable Auto Lane Centering
jmgreen720-11-01FD0000000036
Mine720-11-01F90000000032
9 to DHA Enabled
jmgreen730-02-03FFFF0000003A
Mine730-02-03FF000000003B
00 to FFHAD Enbaled
IPMA

706-01-01

xxx4 xxxx Ax--

706-01-02 do not touch. That is for lane change assist which is not operable over there yet.

The changes to the IPC (720) and PSCM (730) are correct. This is a good start. There may be more that needs to be done; particularly in the IPC. It may be easier at some point to flash the ab data from @jmgreen IPC onto yours. His Mach E and yours are very close in specs.
 

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I've tried, my friend. With several people in your side of the world. I don't know what's missing to get it to work.
Oh, it's not that it does not work. Actually it is. But not seamlessly:

If you engage BC via the steering wheel, the lane change assist must be turned off in the APIM. If it is already on, then BC will not engage. But if you only turn on the LCA while BC is already running, then it's working, and the arrows on the display appear at left/right of the blue bubble.

Furthermore (and here I don't know whether this has been the same also in the US), if you set the blinker, the system seems to require that you have had your hands on the steering wheel. If that was the case shortly before you activated the blinker, the system will engage the lane change. I have the impression that this is the old mechanism that we knew from the pre-BC times, where the system demanded regularly that you put both hands back on the wheel again (doing some micro movements). I think that in this LCA implementation it's still required to keep the hands on the wheel (and for me it's not entirely stupid, as it happens quite regularly that the lane change suddenly gets interrupted and then the driver needs to be ready to take over again).

I can live with the "hands on the wheel". But this activation flaw is annoying, as I always need to fiddle around with the APIM settings before/after BC activation.
 

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Oh, it's not that it does not work. Actually it is. But not seamlessly:

If you engage BC via the steering wheel, the lane change assist must be turned off in the APIM. If it is already on, then BC will not engage. But if you only turn on the LCA while BC is already running, then it's working, and the arrows on the display appear at left/right of the blue bubble.

Furthermore (and here I don't know whether this has been the same also in the US), if you set the blinker, the system seems to require that you have had your hands on the steering wheel. If that was the case shortly before you activated the blinker, the system will engage the lane change. I have the impression that this is the old mechanism that we knew from the pre-BC times, where the system demanded regularly that you put both hands back on the wheel again (doing some micro movements). I think that in this LCA implementation it's still required to keep the hands on the wheel (and for me it's not entirely stupid, as it happens quite regularly that the lane change suddenly gets interrupted and then the driver needs to be ready to take over again).

I can live with the "hands on the wheel". But this activation flaw is annoying, as I always need to fiddle around with the APIM settings before/after BC activation.
I still think it's something in the config (or firmware) in the GWM that is causing issues. Unfortunately, there is no spreadsheet for the GWM we can go through to try and figure it out.
 

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Just confirming we can Not activate Park Assist or the side sensors with Forescan correct? All I really care about is the side proximity sensors.
 


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Just confirming we can Not activate Park Assist or the side sensors with Forescan correct? All I really care about is the side proximity sensors.
The side sensors, maybe. Never tried, but this stands out in the IPMA. You show a 6 there now, so side warn is disabled. Try changing it to an E, then go to the wrench icon and reboot the IPMA and see if it works. If you don't get the desired result, just change it back to a 6. The thing is, my truck shows a 6 there and I am pretty sure my side sensors are working, so I am not sure if that is the correct location where it is enabled. My truck came with fully functional park assist, but I never even tried it. I find it to be gimmicky and useless compared to how quickly I am able to park on my own.

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You already show side detect enabled in the APIM like seen below and so does my truck.

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The side sensors, maybe. Never tried, but this stands out in the IPMA. You show a 6 there now, so side warn is disabled. Try changing it to an E, then go to the wrench icon and reboot the IPMA and see if it works. If you don't get the desired result, just change it back to a 6. The thing is, my truck shows a 6 there and I am pretty sure my side sensors are working, so I am not sure if that is the correct location where it is enabled. My truck came with fully functional park assist, but I never even tried it. I find it to be gimmicky and useless compared to how quickly I am able to park on my own.

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You already show side detect enabled in the APIM like seen below and so does my truck.

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Interesting thanks! I believe @Mach-Lee has stated you need parking module for side sensors to work.
 

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Interesting thanks! I believe @Mach-Lee has stated you need parking module for side sensors to work.
It's very possible. I am not familiar of the hardware requirements for these vehciles. I've gotten pretty competent with FORScan, but difficult to keep track of what is needed hardware-wise for things to work across all the different forums I'm on.
 

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Confirmed an IPMA swap with the chip is required. First, make sure you PMI the new IPMA with FDRS when you install it in the vehicle so it gets absorbed by the server and you don't have issues with with future updates for it. You may have to look up the ab data of a Mach E that has it working to see which option is correct for the ABS, APIM and IPMA:

Enable PA here in the ABS:

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Here in the PSCM:

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Here in the APIM (not sure which is correct for the Mach E):

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And enable APA in the IPMA here:

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Also, check this value in the IPC. My truck shows AP is enabled. Not sure it if has to do with APA or not, but worth a look.

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Buenas noches, Javi:

¿Crres que con el procedieminto PMI el FDRS detectará correctamente el IPMA si viene de otro coche (VIN) con número versión de pieza diferente?¿No me dará error? Creo que en el foro del F150 hiciste referencia a esto. Ya me dices. Saludos
 

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Buenas noches, Javi:



¿Crres que con el procedieminto PMI el FDRS detectará correctamente el IPMA si viene de otro coche (VIN) con número versión de pieza diferente?¿No me dará error? Creo que en el foro del F150 hiciste referencia a esto. Ya me dices. Saludos


Puedes manualmente cambiar el VIN en el bloque 19 de el IPMA con FORScan para que coincida con la de el carro y después correr el PMI. Solo copia lo que ves en el bloque de el carro en esa sección porque el VIN esta en hex.
 

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@Piolin If fdrs does not absorb the new APIM due to the part number or whatever reason, you can still program/update it with FORScan if needed. However, any future IPMA update that gets released for the vehicle would need to be side-loaded with FORScan, too. It's not a big deal. It takes 2.5-3 hours with forscan just like it would with FDRS.
 

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Hi everyone,

it's been more than a year since I've updated MY2021 MME with FDRS and I've the pending 25S65 recall to schedule at the dealer... can any european user check if there's something more to be done?

I'd like to know the 12v LVB status since the car It's still running with the original one and It's more than 4 years old .

My VIN: WF0TK1EM6MMA32149

Thank you very much.
 

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Puedes manualmente cambiar el VIN en el bloque 19 de el IPMA con FORScan para que coincida con la de el carro y después correr el PMI. Solo copia lo que ves en el bloque de el carro en esa sección porque el VIN esta en hex.
Vale Javi, muchas gracias:

Por otro lado, te quería comentar que, como sabes, el sw del IPMA viene asiciado al sw del PSCM. De hecho, en las actualziacions del FDRS vienen emparejadas. ¿Crees que tendré algún problema si intercambio sólo el IPMA ahora con la función del Park Assist incluida? Me achaca esta duda, aunque he cambiado los valores a todos los módulos (menos el IPMA que no he sustituido aun) y no me ha dado ningún error. Ya me aparece la opción en el SYNC.

Ya me dices.

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Vale Javi, muchas gracias:

Por otro lado, te quería comentar que, como sabes, el sw del IPMA viene asiciado al sw del PSCM. De hecho, en las actualziacions del FDRS vienen emparejadas. ¿Crees que tendré algún problema si intercambio sólo el IPMA ahora con la función del Park Assist incluida? Me achaca esta duda, aunque he cambiado los valores a todos los módulos (menos el IPMA que no he sustituido aun) y no me ha dado ningún error. Ya me aparece la opción en el SYNC.

Ya me dices.

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Te puedo decir que yo le instalado el sw de el IPMA a muchos camiones sin instalar el sw de el PSCM con ningun problema. La manera correcto de hacerlo es los dos, pero no es necesario. Incluso, para los camiones Tremor que Ford no tiene el sw para BC 1.4 dispoble, se los e metido a la fuerze con FORScan con los archivos de calibracion de el camion mio que son diferentes a el Tremor, y BC 1.4 funciona perfectamente.

No creo que tienes que preocuparte por el PSCM. El PMI con FDRS ve a resolver el sw de el PSCM automaticamente si es necesario. La verdad es que puedes programar el IPMA con FORScan beta mientras que tengas los archivos. El propsito de tratar de hacerlo con FDRS es solo para syncronizar el modulo nuevo con los servidores de Ford para que el dia de manana si Ford saca un sw nuevo para el IPMA, se puede instalar con FDRS o con actualizaciones por el aire.
 
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Te puedo decir que yo le instalado el sw de el IPMA a muchos camiones sin instalar el sw de el PSCM con ningun problema. La manera correcto de hacerlo es los dos, pero no es necesario. Incluso, para los camiones Tremor que Ford no tiene el sw para BC 1.4 dispoble, se los e metido a la fuerze con FORScan con los archivos de calibracion de el camion mio que son diferentes a el Tremor, y BC 1.4 funciona perfectamente.

No creo que tienes que preocuparte por el PSCM. El PMI con FDRS ve a resolver el sw de el PSCM automaticamente si es necesario. La verdad es que puedes programar el IPMA con FORScan beta mientras que tengas los archivos. El propsito de tratar de hacerlo con FDRS es solo para syncronizar el modulo nuevo con los servidores de Ford para que el dia de manana si Ford saca un sw nuevo para el IPMA, se puede instalar con FDRS o con actualizaciones por el aire.
Hola Javier:

Al final he cambiado el IPMA de mi coche (sin Park Assist) por un IPMA de un coche con el Park Assist. Esto lo he comprobado con seguridad en las prestaciones del coche donante y con el PTS. En concreto he pasado de la pieza LJ8T-14G647-FCA a la pieza PJ8T-14G647-GDC. El trabajo que hice fue:

1. Desmontar la de mi coche y poner la otra del donante.
2. Conectar el FDRS y ejecutar el PMI. En mi caso reconoció el nuevo módulo y lo actualizó. Se tiro 2,5 horas.
3. Comprobe que el nuevo módulo se actualizó correctamente tanto en el FDRS como en el PTS.
4. Comprobé que todos los módulos del coche estaban actualizados:

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5. Resolví un error del IPMA que se solucionó ejecutando todos los alineamioentos de las cámaras.
6. Veriqué que ya no habían DTCs. DTCs=0.
6. Modifique primero los Asbuilt de los módulos PSCM, ABS, APIM e IPC. Hata aquí todo bien, y ya me salía la opción de "aparcamiento automático" en el SYNC. Al apretar el botón, obviamente no hacía nada:

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7 Modifique en el IPMA el valor 706-01-01 xxxx x2xxx xxxx. Tras esto me salío el error del SOBDMC (Dtos no válidos recibidos desde el módulo de aparcamiento automático):

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No sé qué tiene que ver este módulo. Aparentemente todo está bien. EL IPMA soporta el P. Asssit "seguro", pero no me funcioa. Al apretar el botón del SYNC de "aparacamiento automático" me sale" APARCAMIENTO AUTOMÁTICO AVERIADO.

No sé qué más puede ser. ¿Tienes alguna idea adicional? ¿Crees que se debe cambiar algún otro parámetro?

Ya me dices.

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