Does EXT and STD Range have the same motors?

[solarity]

We are getting the STD Range AWD Premium Mach-E, though I see the EXT range is about 0.4 seconds faster on the 0-60s.

I am curious if they are nerfing the acceleration of the STD Range via SW to give people a second reason to swallow the $5k up charge for about 69 extra miles?

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[gnaark]

There's a difference of HP between Standard Range and Extended range.
428ft-lbs and 266 HP vs 428ft-lbs and 346 HP

not sure if it's software throttled though - it may be done to be able to guarantee the range.

 

[ski99]

The larger battery can handle a higher energy discharge rate. More energy transfer to the motors = higher torque and power.
That said, it is also being managed by software. Ford could choose to allow a faster discharge rate on the smaller battery and trade off some battery life.

 

[JamieGeek]

There's a difference of HP between Standard Range and Extended range.
428ft-lbs and 266 HP vs 428ft-lbs and 346 HP

not sure if it's software throttled though - it may be done to be able to guarantee the range.

The difference isn't the motor: Its the battery. The smaller battery cannot provide the current the larger one can, hence the lower numbers.

 

[generaltso]

More energy transfer to the motors = higher torque and power.

Actually, it's just more power. The torque is the same.

 

[physib]

nerfing

lol

 

[silverelan]

The difference isn't the motor: Its the battery. The smaller battery cannot provide the current the larger one can, hence the lower numbers.

The SR is a 75.7kWh pack (68kWh usable) which is objectively quite big so it shouldn't be a big leap to enable additional current to match the ER pack.

If the SR AWD motors had the same power as the ER version, it'd probably drop a decent margin off the 0-60 time.

 

[Jimrpa]

Cool. I always wondered why the SR, with a lighter battery pack was actually slower out of the blocks. The more you know ?

 

[SnBGC]

The SR is a 75.7kWh pack (68kWh usable) which is objectively quite big so it shouldn't be a big leap to enable additional current to match the ER pack.

If the SR AWD motors had the same power as the ER version, it'd probably drop a decent margin off the 0-60 time.

I think you are confusing kWh with kW. Easy to do....I get confused all the time with that....

The extended range battery pack has 1 more module than the SR pack so it is able to provide more watts. More watts=more power. kW is power.

 

[silverelan]

I think you are confusing kWh with kW. Easy to do....I get confused all the time with that....

The extended range battery pack has 1 more module than the SR pack so it is able to provide more watts. More watts=more power. kW is power.

Maybe I'm not phrasing it right. Lemme try again.

What I'm saying is, if the 75.7kWh pack could discharge its electrons faster, then the SR AWD motors could make use of that to match the power output of the ER AWD. So 346hp for the SR would improve the 0-60 time and easily beat the ~5 seconds the 4X can do.

 

[generaltso]

What I'm saying is, if the 75.7kWh pack could discharge its electrons faster, then the SR AWD motors could make use of that to match the power output of the ER AWD.

Sure. But the SR battery has fewer cells, which is why the max discharge rate is lower. It's also why the max DCFC rate is 115kW instead of 150kW.

 

[silverelan]

Sure. But the SR battery has fewer cells, which is why the max discharge rate is lower. It's also why the max DCFC rate is 115kW instead of 150kW.

Gotcha. Seems like it's something that could be changed in the future to improve the ability to kick the power output up in the SR AWD.

 

[generaltso]

Gotcha. Seems like it's something that could be changed in the future to improve the ability to kick the power output up in the SR AWD.

Even if it's possible, I highly doubt it's something Ford is planning to do.

 

[RonTCat]

Gotcha. Seems like it's something that could be changed in the future to improve the ability to kick the power output up in the SR AWD.

Doubt the laws of physics can be changed easily, lol.

 

[SnBGC]

Maybe I'm not phrasing it right. Lemme try again.

What I'm saying is, if the 75.7kWh pack could discharge its electrons faster, then the SR AWD motors could make use of that to match the power output of the ER AWD. So 346hp for the SR would improve the 0-60 time and easily beat the ~5 seconds the 4X can do.

The SR pack would need higher voltage to discharge faster than the EX pack. But yes, increase the voltage and it could be possible I suppose....

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