FordPass 3.24.0 rolling out

[dliunatic]

Honestly, my MME has been pretty reliable so far since I got in in Feb. Is it perfect? No, but I'd say it's 99% there for me at least. Settings seen to stick fine and associate correctly with my profile. PAAK works great since making sure it wasn't battery optimized. The only issue was the 1 time where the driver window panel wouldn't control anything but it never happened after that and I have no idea how to replicate the issue.

Having been in the embedded systems development space and also having worked in automotive industry, I know how challenging regular release cadences can be so I definitely appreciate even their 10-12 OTA update a year. That's about as frequent as my Galaxy phone updates (if not even more) ?

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[krafty81]

At this point, I'd say we are just living on hope. And I am still hopeful Ford is going to hold up their end of the bargain. I am disappointed that after 5 months we have not even seen a basic Sync bug fixed like not holding tone settings in profile. Things like that could have shown some goodwill by fixing.

We just have to be hopeful that they really will fix things or really can. It could be possible that their entire OTA plan is just a fail. There comes a point that we will all just have to accept a reality that substantive fixes are not coming, but I'm not there yet. Software is a complex item and they have all the grace they need from me on new features. The lack of any consumer bugs appearing fixed after 5 months is troublesome.

My tone settings hold fine on my profile

 

[methorian]

My online account says this...

I see the same customer satisfaction program listed on my owner page as well. Makes sense since I was an earlier delivery and haven't been to the dealer for any updates.

PaaK works okay for me so figured I'd just wait until things are rolled out via OTA instead of going in to the dealer. Might see if the dealership can do it on a Saturday and go ahead and have it done...

 

[KAustin]

I see the same customer satisfaction program listed on my owner page as well. Makes sense since I was an earlier delivery and haven't been to the dealer for any updates.

PaaK works okay for me so figured I'd just wait until things are rolled out via OTA instead of going in to the dealer. Might see if the dealership can do it on a Saturday and go ahead and have it done...

I'm not in a rush either. I think we got our cars in the same Jan/Feb time frame. PaaK works 90% of the time which is still an "A". I'm more interested in what changed in the Sync4 update.

 

[Shayne]

I'm guessing they mean that button.

It is the one on the left that I wonder about. A couple of revision ago they toke away communication between the car and the app (we most likely all crashed their servers checking so often ). An app restart would do it. Now there is absolutely no phone home and I have seen 5 days as the last communication between car and app. Wonder if the vehicle status is from 5 days ago when I powered it off and walked away? That would be meaningless. A last checked timestamp in the box would be helpful.

 

[JamieGeek]

It is the one on the left that I wonder about. A couple of revision ago they toke away communication between the car and the app (we most likely all crashed their servers checking so often ). An app restart would do it. Now there is absolutely no phone home and I have seen 5 days as the last communication between car and app. Wonder if the vehicle status is from 5 days ago when I powered it off and walked away? That would be meaningless. A last checked timestamp in the box would be helpful.

I would guess the last checked timestamp is the same as at the top of that window:

If I pull down twice (the first pull down showed the circle wait for a few minutes and gave up but the second pull down wait only lasted a few seconds and updated the display) it then shows "Updated just now". (in addition: I lost 2 miles overnight, a subsequent update gained 1 mile back)

 

[Jimrpa]

Full of bugs. Difficult to launch and impossible to close. Bad version

Huh?

 

[Shayne]

I would guess the last checked timestamp is the same as at the top of that window:

If I pull down twice (the first pull down showed the circle wait for a few minutes and gave up but the second pull down wait only lasted a few seconds and updated the display) it then shows "Updated just now". (in addition: I lost 2 miles overnight, a subsequent update gained 1 mile back)

Nope updated yesterday at 4:02 PM when I powered it off. The double pull down could be similar to a restart? As noted I have seen 5 days no communication from vehicle to app. Makes the check mark confusing as to its meaning. Cars appear to be acting differently at this stage and that could be due to different software/firmware combination. I am in for a module swap soon so you need to take that into account. I will note it started after a fordpass update. It installed with a notice it was removed and would be better in the future. Maybe a geographical thing?

 

[Jimrpa]

Actually they both copied this from Xerox. Oh wait. Nevermind.

Who,

Actually they both copied this from Xerox. Oh wait. Nevermind.

Who copied the concepts from earlier sources. You can go back to the early 1960s for the first mouse, and to the post WW II era for the first primitive GUIs ?

 

[exact33]

My paak seems to be working much more consistently (either that or it is my perception - which is not unheard of from consumers)

Being on the Product management side of software development, I do not want to release anything that has bugs but that is not realistic. I agree with the prioritizing bugs/features and going after the highest priority first. Remember, one only has finite tech resources so to do everything is not realistic. Product should be saying no or not now.

 

[MachTee]

I don't recall seeing the ability to change the charge percentage in the app in the previous version, but I'm seeing it now on 3.24.0. I've only had my car for a few days so I'm not yet familiar with things yet.

I scanned through the last few pages here, and see that quite a few of you are not happy with Ford's lack of constant OTA. After owning a Tesla for nearly 3yrs, all I have to see is be careful what you wish for. Many Tesla updates brought new bugs and/or unwanted stuff. OTA is a double edged sword. I was absolutely PO'ed at Tesla with their "holiday" OTA update back in January, in which the UI was changed to a jumbled mess. I purposely disconnected the car from wifi, but Tesla shoved it down my throat and pushed it over LTE. Some things were never fixed in those 3yrs, like the "rain sensing" wipers, which I suspect can never be fixed because it lacks a dedicated infrared rain sensor.

I am new here so it remains to be seen how Ford compares. I've been used to Tesla's bleeding edge updates so admittedly my expectation is set low. Sometimes I miss the older car's that "just worked". Yeah you're stuck with what the car rolled off the assembly line with, but it just worked and no surprises. I realize that it really is how it has to be, that cars are computers on wheels and continuous improvements need to happen, but OTA really afforded the ability for manufacturers to released unfinished products.

 

[Shayne]

Who copied the concepts from earlier sources. You can go back to the early 1960s for the first mouse, and to the post WW II era for the first primitive GUIs ?

Definitely it was not M$ for the mouse. The skull and cross bone flags were waving on their front lawn.

 

[Shayne]

I don't recall seeing the ability to change the charge percentage in the app in the previous version, but I'm seeing it now on 3.24.0. I've only had my car for a few days so I'm not yet familiar with things yet.

I scanned through the last few pages here, and see that quite a few of you are not happy with Ford's lack of constant OTA. After owning a Tesla for nearly 3yrs, all I have to see is be careful what you wish for. Many Tesla updates brought new bugs and/or unwanted stuff. OTA is a double edged sword. I was absolutely PO'ed at Tesla with their "holiday" OTA update back in January, in which the UI was changed to a jumbled mess. I purposely disconnected the car from wifi, but Tesla shoved it down my throat and pushed it over LTE. Some things were never fixed in those 3yrs, like the "rain sensing" wipers, which I suspect can never be fixed because it lacks a dedicated infrared rain sensor.

I am new here so it remains to be seen how Ford compares. I've been used to Tesla's bleeding edge updates so admittedly my expectation is set low. Sometimes I miss the older car's that "just worked". Yeah you're stuck with what the car rolled off the assembly line with, but it just worked and no surprises. I realize that it really is how it has to be, that cars are computers on wheels and continuous improvements need to happen, but OTA really afforded the ability for manufacturers to released unfinished products.

The charge percentage was there and you must have missed it. There is a setting to turn auto updates off. That way you can wait for beta testers reports. I would like a download to usb stick option check SHA and do the upgrade that way. I do not update MB Bios (uefi) through windows. Bricking one motherboard gets you a bit gun shy. Bricking my mustang would be disheartening. I have auto updates enable now till the dust settles but as soon as my list is working it will most likely be toggled off.

 

[Jimrpa]

Definitely it was not M$ for the mouse. The skull and cross bone flags were waving on their front lawn.

SRI is generally attributed as having the first “mouse”. There were “trackballs” before that but, oddly enough, nobody simply turned one of those upside down. The first mouse actually had two perpendicular wheels. It was “primitive”.

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