GTBaller
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- 2010 Mustang GT, Reserved 2020 Mach-E GT
Mach E looks way better!
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Go here: CONFIGURE YOUR MUSTANG MACH-ECan anyone find a list of all of features on each of the 5 models? Aroundview?? etc.
In Spain, where I live, Tesla's problems in supplying parts are very large. To start the delivery of your new vehicle, a tent is carried out on the street in a warehouse of an industrial estate. From that moment on, the after-sales service is very bad, staff without experience in cars. A car is not like a telephone or an electronic device.One of the articles I read said that a Ford dealer would be able to have 95% of Mach E parts within 24 hours. I know one of the biggest issues with Tesla is the availability of parts and timelines of repairs.
I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about the state of the EV market and can recite all sorts of facts and stats about Tesla in particular. That's why my Tesla buddies are quite baffled by my decision to reserve a Mach-E rather than Model Y. In my opinion, the Y is an overweight-looking version of a Model 3 with seemingly nothing appealing to look at.Mach E is one of the better looking designs out there at the moment.
The Y has that Tesla theme. It tries to retain that look but in doing so it looks awkward, and some of the proportions seem a little off. Same with the other two models, the X and the 3. The Model S looks timeless and is well-proportioned - something that people will keep appreciating for a long time. The other Teslas look OK but they don't hit the mark like the S did.
So, Elon noticed this drift; unable to maintain the balance in the design of his cars like he did with Model S, so he thought long and hard about a new design direction and came up with the Cybrtrk.
/Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Anyway....
I actually don't see these "competing" although the specs, price, performance are all similar. They are both vying for a very large, untapped space so I don't see one as a real threat to the other. When you look at what is available with their specs there is nothing else available so its more a case of them both being in a space where demand will outstrip supply. For a while they'll have that segment to themselves. I see them both as great threats, however, to any vehicles, especially SUVs, anywhere near their price.
The other reason I don't think they "compete" is because of the contrast in the type of personalities that would gravitate to them. I'm not saying the Mach E will attract Mustang buyers, rather, it will attract people that love the Mustang but never bought one because of the lack of practicality and user friendliness, and there are many that love the icon which is Mustang. Then you have those who will love it just for it's shape, or for the fact it is a sensibly designed SUV, and it goes without saying, many will buy it because it's a BEV.
On the other hand the Tesla consumers have been buying Teslas because there wasn't any competition. Then there are also the Tesla zealots that swear Elon is the second coming and nothing will sway them from buying anything else.
The Model S caused a great dent in the sales of other luxury marques because it is the next technology, because it was great looking, and last but not least, it is ridiculously fast. It was on it's own in those respects. There was nothing like it. No competition. To a slightly lesser degree the Mach E is tapping in to that. As I've tried to point out in other posts, this is why its a pivotal and crucial vehicle for Ford. It's a case of either get it right 100%, or, if it fails, could prove to be a very costly with a huge detriment to Ford's quest entering that next phase of technology. To ensure its success it would have been suicide not to do what they've done in making it a Mustang. They looked at Tesla, and then they saw others working towards taking Tesla down. They knew this fight was going to get bloody because early dominance and sales momentum is key. They had a fight on their hands so they went back to the shed and pulled out their biggest gun - the Mustang!
Agreed. It looks like a clumsy baby elephant.I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about the state of the EV market and can recite all sorts of facts and stats about Tesla in particular. That's why my Tesla buddies are quite baffled by my decision to reserve a Mach-E rather than Model Y. In my opinion, the Y is an overweight-looking version of a Model 3 with seemingly nothing appealing to look at.
The Mach-E has great looks, promised Mustang performance and EV range that is among best in class.
Oh man, I can't unsee it."It looks like a clumsy baby elephant."
You are very right. The Tesla Model S looks well proportioned, a great sedan. but the model And it does not look natural, it is like bloated, they have tried to make a model 3 in suv version and that does not work out. On the other hand I am looking forward to know how the Mustang Electric Sedan will be.Mach E is one of the better looking designs out there at the moment.
The Y has that Tesla theme. It tries to retain that look but in doing so it looks awkward, and some of the proportions seem a little off. Same with the other two models, the X and the 3. The Model S looks timeless and is well-proportioned - something that people will keep appreciating for a long time. The other Teslas look OK but they don't hit the mark like the S did.
So, Elon noticed this drift; unable to maintain the balance in the design of his cars like he did with Model S, so he thought long and hard about a new design direction and came up with the Cybrtrk.
/Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Anyway....
I actually don't see these "competing" although the specs, price, performance are all similar. They are both vying for a very large, untapped space so I don't see one as a real threat to the other. When you look at what is available with their specs there is nothing else available so its more a case of them both being in a space where demand will outstrip supply. For a while they'll have that segment to themselves. I see them both as great threats, however, to any vehicles, especially SUVs, anywhere near their price.
The other reason I don't think they "compete" is because of the contrast in the type of personalities that would gravitate to them. I'm not saying the Mach E will attract Mustang buyers, rather, it will attract people that love the Mustang but never bought one because of the lack of practicality and user friendliness, and there are many that love the icon which is Mustang. Then you have those who will love it just for it's shape, or for the fact it is a sensibly designed SUV, and it goes without saying, many will buy it because it's a BEV.
On the other hand the Tesla consumers have been buying Teslas because there wasn't any competition. Then there are also the Tesla zealots that swear Elon is the second coming and nothing will sway them from buying anything else.
The Model S caused a great dent in the sales of other luxury marques because it is the next technology, because it was great looking, and last but not least, it is ridiculously fast. It was on it's own in those respects. There was nothing like it. No competition. To a slightly lesser degree the Mach E is tapping in to that. As I've tried to point out in other posts, this is why its a pivotal and crucial vehicle for Ford. It's a case of either get it right 100%, or, if it fails, could prove to be a very costly with a huge detriment to Ford's quest entering that next phase of technology. To ensure its success it would have been suicide not to do what they've done in making it a Mustang. They looked at Tesla, and then they saw others working towards taking Tesla down. They knew this fight was going to get bloody because early dominance and sales momentum is key. They had a fight on their hands so they went back to the shed and pulled out their biggest gun - the Mustang!
Yep, concur. I passed on Model 3 twice and something about Y isnāt right. Plenty of used Sās, and The potential cost of replacing batteries in 1/3 the cost of the car new!Mach E is one of the better looking designs out there at the moment.
The Y has that Tesla theme. It tries to retain that look but in doing so it looks awkward, and some of the proportions seem a little off. Same with the other two models, the X and the 3. The Model S looks timeless and is well-proportioned - something that people will keep appreciating for a long time. The other Teslas look OK but they don't hit the mark like the S did.
So, Elon noticed this drift; unable to maintain the balance in the design of his cars like he did with Model S, so he thought long and hard about a new design direction and came up with the Cybrtrk.
/Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Anyway....
I actually don't see these "competing" although the specs, price, performance are all similar. They are both vying for a very large, untapped space so I don't see one as a real threat to the other. When you look at what is available with their specs there is nothing else available so its more a case of them both being in a space where demand will outstrip supply. For a while they'll have that segment to themselves. I see them both as great threats, however, to any vehicles, especially SUVs, anywhere near their price.
The other reason I don't think they "compete" is because of the contrast in the type of personalities that would gravitate to them. I'm not saying the Mach E will attract Mustang buyers, rather, it will attract people that love the Mustang but never bought one because of the lack of practicality and user friendliness, and there are many that love the icon which is Mustang. Then you have those who will love it just for it's shape, or for the fact it is a sensibly designed SUV, and it goes without saying, many will buy it because it's a BEV.
On the other hand the Tesla consumers have been buying Teslas because there wasn't any competition. Then there are also the Tesla zealots that swear Elon is the second coming and nothing will sway them from buying anything else.
The Model S caused a great dent in the sales of other luxury marques because it is the next technology, because it was great looking, and last but not least, it is ridiculously fast. It was on it's own in those respects. There was nothing like it. No competition. To a slightly lesser degree the Mach E is tapping in to that. As I've tried to point out in other posts, this is why its a pivotal and crucial vehicle for Ford. It's a case of either get it right 100%, or, if it fails, could prove to be a very costly with a huge detriment to Ford's quest entering that next phase of technology. To ensure its success it would have been suicide not to do what they've done in making it a Mustang. They looked at Tesla, and then they saw others working towards taking Tesla down. They knew this fight was going to get bloody because early dominance and sales momentum is key. They had a fight on their hands so they went back to the shed and pulled out their biggest gun - the Mustang!