My GT Performance Edition (GTPE) first track launch with videos, timeslip! 0-60 in 4.12s, 1/4 mile in 12.657 @ 100.02 mph

[buzznwood]

they’re doing it to save battery range…. But it’s too brutal right now and they need to scale it better. Heck add a drag strip mode that doesn’t give a crap.
And a “performance mode” that doesn’t care about battery range.
Something has to give.

The 'performance mode' is already there and called unbridled, nobody cares if you launch an ICE and what your mpg drop like a stone, the same way nobody will care if you your range drops if you go mad launching everywhere in a BEV, sure when the charge gets low by all means reduce power to protect range which is what most BEV already do.

Unbridled extended was added to allow some longer amount of fun on track so dials everything back where as unbridled is supposed to just let you use it all and range be dammed. So Ford saving so much to maintain battery range that a GT / GTPE is trapping slower than an AWD premium just makes no sense.

While it is great to see another round of times posted it is also very disappointing to see the same trend of it falling flat on its face in the mid range, I can understand the lack of top speed vs the model Y as apart from our german cousins on the autobahn and those that frequent the mexican highways it will be an irrelevance but everyone will be use mid range and having a supposed high performance vehicle failing so much in the mid range isn't really good enough, why Ford continue to hide under the bed sheets over this issue just makes them look even more incompetent.

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[Mach1E]

It will be interesting seeing this car evolve over the next few years. Will it get a 2 speed gearbox for top end like the Taycan? Will it get an 800 volt battery like the Taycan? I feel like the MME might need these things if it's going to live up to the Mustang name in any form above and beyond the GT badge.

I'm still looking forward to my MME GT and it's a full second faster in the 1/4 compared to what I have now. It's going to be a blast to own.

2 speed won’t help with the 60+ mph acceleration. If anything it would make it worse in order to give a higher top speed.

It also would make for a faster 0-60, but I also don’t think that’s an issue.

Unfortunately for me, so far it’s not any faster than my daily driver now. Faster to 60, significantly slower above 60 and barely slower in the 1/4.

60-100 in 9 seconds is……… slow. That’s that the times for the GT and GT PE are showing.

Just for comparison- Model Y performance does 60-100 in about 6 seconds.

This is a screenshot from the video linked here, where he also did another run of 0-60 in 3.4….. on the street.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/inside...deo-tesla-model-y-performance-drag-times/amp/

 

[Progress]

Just to add my 2 cents into the discussion about the MME GTPE losing acceleration at higher speeds, I averaged the GTPE 0-60 splits from pages 1 and 59, and compared them to the Model Y splits on page 60. I graphed the difference in time (0-10, 0-20, etc) versus speed. The graph shows clearly that the GTPE accelerates faster than the MY from 0-40 but then loses relative acceleration at 40 MPH (or a little earlier). It is so dramatic that it has to be software, not hardware causing this.

 

[Mach1E]

Just to add my 2 cents into the discussion about the MME GTPE losing acceleration at higher speeds, I averaged the GTPE 0-60 splits from pages 1 and 59, and compared them to the Model Y splits on page 60. I graphed the difference in time (0-10, 0-20, etc) versus speed. The graph shows clearly that the GTPE accelerates faster than the MY from 0-40 but then loses relative acceleration at 40 MPH (or a little earlier). It is so dramatic that it has to be software, not hardware causing this.

I would like to see that graph go all the way to 100 mph (we have the data).

By 100 the difference is about 3 seconds (which is an eternity!).

 

[Smurfunit]

Hope Ford solves this problem soon! Looks like they added range capability at the sacrifice of performance!

 

[sotek2345]

Hope Ford solves this problem soon! Looks like they added range capability at the sacrifice of performance!

I don't think the throttling is there to provide extra range on a per charge basis, but to be conservative and protect the battery long term (less degradation).

 

[Smurfunit]

I don't think the throttling is there to provide extra range on a per charge basis, but to be conservative and protect the battery long term (less degradation).

Probably true - maybe go deeper into the battery reserve as an option- only using up to 88kwh.

 

[JcMarin]

So basically the GT does same (or even better in this run) than the GTPE?

GTPE	GT
1/4 mile: 12.657 sec @ 100.02mph 1000ft: 10.433 sec 1/8 mile: 8.03 sec @ 86.67 mph 330ft: 5.26 sec 60ft: 1.99 sec	1/4 mile: 12.685 @ 100.51mph 1000ft: 10.478 1/8 mile: 7.959 @ 86.64 330: 5.186 60ft: 1.916

Well I'm sure glad I went for the cheaper GT...

Wait, they both did worst than the MME 4X eAWD.?!?!

F#!@$ -

 

[guyofthesky]

Just to add my 2 cents into the discussion about the MME GTPE losing acceleration at higher speeds, I averaged the GTPE 0-60 splits from pages 1 and 59, and compared them to the Model Y splits on page 60. I graphed the difference in time (0-10, 0-20, etc) versus speed. The graph shows clearly that the GTPE accelerates faster than the MY from 0-40 but then loses relative acceleration at 40 MPH (or a little earlier). It is so dramatic that it has to be software, not hardware causing this.

very clever! thanks.

 

[Brofessional]

My internal monologue:

“well that sucks, I want it to be faster!”

“yeah but when do you even go over 70?”

“Almost never, but I want it to be ABLE to be faster”

“What, do you have such a fragile ego that you’re afraid people will make fun of your car?”

“Maybe? But bragging rights and performance will also help with reviews and resale value.”

“Oh just buy the damn thing already”

“Good thing I have 2 more months before it shows up.”

Where do all you “I never go faster than 70” jabronis live? I literally just drove 85 for like 2 hours straight. Would have taken 2.5 in a MME GT apparently.

I’m with some of you guys. They have until my GT gets a chip to say why it’s happening and what they’re going to do about it. Then I’m just going to move on to something else.

The cynical me doesn’t agree this is for battery longevity OR range. I think they saw GT demand, assumed they could sell some Shelby variant or something equally as stupid, but in order to do so they had to make some room for it to performance wise. 0-60 had already been announced and I assume is at near maximum capability with current hardware, so they detuned past 60. I think this fits with how the GT all of the sudden gained 20 miles of range which FMC completely failed to market and was surprisingly quiet about. Not even an explanation from Ford like “oh yeah we are continuing to find software efficiencies.”

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Where do all you “I never go faster than 70” jabronis live? I literally just drove 85 for like 2 hours straight. Would have taken 2.5 in a MME GT apparently.

I’m with some of you guys. They have until my GT gets a chip to say why it’s happening and what they’re going to do about it. Then I’m just going to move on to something else.

The cynical me doesn’t agree this is for battery longevity OR range. I think they saw GT demand, assumed they could sell some Shelby variant or something equally as stupid, but in order to do so they had to make some room for it to performance wise. 0-60 had already been announced and I assume is at near maximum capability with current hardware, so they detuned past 60. I think this fits with how the GT all of the sudden gained 20 miles of range which FMC completely failed to market and was surprisingly quiet about. Not even an explanation from Ford like “oh yeah we are continuing to find software efficiencies.”

Seriously. We have 75mph interstates and 80-85mph toll roads all over. I’ll be going 90-100 with traffic and still move over for faster traffic overtaking in the left lane once in a while. And then sometimes when it’s all clear I’ll put crooked numbers up in the HUD really quick. Like way TF up there.

 

[harrysiii]

50-70:

70-90:

50-70 in Unbridled Extended mode:

I don't know if there's any way to search dragy to see if any MYPs have done 70-90 but C&Ds MYP test has its 50-70 at 1.8 seconds.

Pretty significant uphill slope.

 

[Mach1E]

Pretty significant uphill slope.

More details please. Not sure what car and conditions were are looking at.

 

[secretvampire]

Where do all you “I never go faster than 70” jabronis live? I literally just drove 85 for like 2 hours straight. Would have taken 2.5 in a MME GT apparently.

I would love to see this math. I didn't realize the top speed for the GT was 70, that's news to me!

I agree that Ford needs to answer some of these questions and there are valid concerns about the top-end performance. BUT, some of the hyperbole here is once again getting out of control and laughable.

 

[harrysiii]

More details please. Not sure what car and conditions were are looking at.

GTPE. This was just trying out the custom setting in Dragy for the first time while on the highway.

Edit: unbridled, tcs off. One light passenger.

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