The truth about Electrify America's progress and Traveling with the Mach E

[ClaudeMach-E]

If it was only 500 miles with 2-3 stops I would be OK with it (still having a day's buffer), but NJ to Port Canaveral via Atlanta is more than a dozen stops over 1400 miles. That's just too many points where something can go wrong, particularly since as of right now 4 of the 5 EA stops between maryland and atlanta are reporting as 50kw max (stafford VA, Henderson NC, hillsborough NC, and Charlotte NC). It would be one thing if a single spot had issues, but 80% is pretty bad.

Are you planning to do 1400 miles in 1 day ?????

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[ClaudeMach-E]

Those are good examples. Certainly possible. Whether it's preferable or not is more just a matter of each person's preference/time/money/etc. You're breaking it up into a lot of days so you don't have as many road charging stops, and relying on a lot of hotel charging. Makes sense if in no hurry to get there.

It also means a lot of things have to go right with so many chargers (road and hotel). And really limits hotel choices. And costs a lot at EA's high rates, and extra hotel nights. Pros and cons.

Do you drive more then 500 miles a day, not if I can avoid it.

 

[ab13]

If it was only 500 miles with 2-3 stops I would be OK with it (still having a day's buffer), but NJ to Port Canaveral via Atlanta is more than a dozen stops over 1400 miles. That's just too many points where something can go wrong, particularly since as of right now 4 of the 5 EA stops between maryland and atlanta are reporting as 50kw max (stafford VA, Henderson NC, hillsborough NC, and Charlotte NC). It would be one thing if a single spot had issues, but 80% is pretty bad.

Not to mention lack of spare tire on these vehicles. You could lose a lot of time for a tire issue.

 

[hybrid2bev]

About the SR battery being limited at 115kW was at the beginning but was change and it's now 150kW for all models and SR and ER batteries according to the last spec sheet online.

Can you provide a screenshot or the document? I'm not seeing that update.

I see on the 'compare specs' page on the Ford Mach-E page it it says that " -DC Charging: Up to 150kW capability" is standard on all models. But it does not say that all models will get the full 150kW.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

Those are good examples. Certainly possible. Whether it's preferable or not is more just a matter of each person's preference/time/money/etc. You're breaking it up into a lot of days so you don't have as many road charging stops, and relying on a lot of hotel charging. Makes sense if in no hurry to get there.

It also means a lot of things have to go right with so many chargers (road and hotel). And really limits hotel choices. And costs a lot at EA's high rates, and extra hotel nights. Pros and cons.

Yes I may rely on hotel night recharge, but it may make a long road trip doable or not so I look for them in my planning, the important thing is to get to the final destination the better way possible, and my limit now for driving long distance travel is more or less 800km/500mi a day.

 

[timbop]

Wow, I totally missed that. Did the 38 minute 10-80% charge time on the SR go down then, since it's starting off at 150 rather than 115 now?

NO, I believe that is a misinterpretation of the chart. "UP TO" means the absolute ceiling is 150kw for all possible configurations - not EVERY configuration. The Select edition only gets the SR battery so it is explicitly listed as absolute max of 115kw. With the additional 30% battery module wired parallel the max charge rate is increased by 30% to 150kw; they don't bother to show the 2 different max values for the SR and ER premium because 115 < 150, and the 150 alone looks better.

 

[JamieGeek]

Can you provide a screenshot or the document? I'm not seeing that update.

I see on the 'compare specs' page on the Ford Mach-E page it it says that " -DC Charging: Up to 150kW capability" is standard on all models. But it does not say that all models will get the full 150kW.

In the Tech Specs guide, for the select (which is only SR):

 

[dbsb3233]

I usually use around 200 miles (180 worst case) for the Bolt's highway range and since I'm getting a CA RT1 Mach-E (LR RWD so 300+ as Ford says) I'll probably use 260-270 for its highway range.

Of course, both of these trips I'm talking about were January and March around these parts so the range estimation was even less.

Hope you're right. 260-270 at would only be a 10-13% loss off 300 advertised range for high speed.

Although I'm still half-expecting that 300 to be bumped up 4-5% in the final numbers, or maybe later with OTA tweaking.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

Can you provide a screenshot or the document? I'm not seeing that update.

I see on the 'compare specs' page on the Ford Mach-E page it it says that " -DC Charging: Up to 150kW capability" is standard on all models. But it does not say that all models will get the full 150kW.

It will always show up to 150 kW because charging speed may vary depending on many factor like battery temperature, weather etc. But to me that indicates that all models and SR and ER are equipped with a charger that can go up to 150 kW. Before for the Select SR it was indicating up to 115 kW and that is gone.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

In the Tech Specs guide, for the select (which is only SR):

Yes I had that Tech spec sheet to (what is the date of that sheet), but now on the on line site they do indicate in the compare models what is shown in the previous thread 150 kW for all.

 

[timbop]

Are you planning to do 1400 miles in 1 day ?????

No. I have buffer time in the plan if I get screwed somewhere and have to L2 charge once; twice would sink me

NJ->ATL in ~2 days, atl->florida in 1 day.:

• leave NJ tuesday at 7pm driving 3hrs to northern virginia.
• Drive 8 hours from northern virginia to the southern tip of south carolina on wednesday.
• drive the last 1.5 hrs to atlanta thursday morning with the whale shark swim at 4pm.
• friday drive from atlanta to orlando FL (6 hrs), staying overnight
• driving the last 45 minutes to the port on saturday morning

 

[dbsb3233]

Do you drive more then 500 miles a day, not if I can avoid it.

Our tolerance is more about hours than miles. 12 hours is our practical limit for a day. We try to avoid night driving. For our most common long trip (785 miles), we do it in 11.5-12 hours. We're out here in the west where speed limits are 75-80 MPH.

When going west we do it same day (since we gain an hour). But going east (losing an hour) we sometimes get a cheap hotel room to avoid any night driving. Depends on time of year.

 

[dbsb3233]

NO, I believe that is a misinterpretation of the chart. "UP TO" means the absolute ceiling is 150kw for all possible configurations - not EVERY configuration. The Select edition only gets the SR battery so it is explicitly listed as absolute max of 115kw. With the additional 30% battery module wired parallel the max charge rate is increased by 30% to 150kw; they don't bother to show the 2 different max values for the SR and ER premium because 115 < 150, and the 150 alone looks better.

That's what I was suspecting too. "Up To" could simply be a catch-all description.

 

[hybrid2bev]

It will always show up to 150 kW because charging speed may vary depending on many factor like battery temperature, weather etc. But to me that indicates that all models and SR and ER are equipped with a charger that can go up to 150 kW. Before for the Select SR it was indicating up to 115 kW and that is gone.

My point is that the 115kW could still be the cap for the SR battery and the statement would still be true that all Mach-E's have DC charging capability. If all Mach-E's DC Fast Charge anywhere between 1kW to 150kW the statement is also still true. It does not mean that all can do 150kW.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

No. I have buffer time in the plan if I get screwed somewhere and have to L2 charge once; twice would sink me

NJ->ATL in ~2 days, atl->florida in 1 day.:

• leave NJ tuesday at 7pm driving 3hrs to northern virginia.
• Drive 8 hours from northern virginia to the southern tip of south carolina on wednesday.
• drive the last 1.5 hrs to atlanta thursday morning with the whale shark swim at 4pm.
• friday drive from atlanta to orlando FL (6 hrs), staying overnight
• driving the last 45 minutes to the port on saturday morning

So that means 12 to 14 stops over 5 days, but you have very short trip days and I would think that you would be able to recharge fully at night, so I have a problem with that number of stops when I've planned 11 stops in 3 days down to Florida for little over 2300 km/1400 mi?

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