2021 Mach-E won't get 2022 usable Battery Increase

[RickMachE]

Have AWD SR only 1600+miles since Aug.Charged up to 85% yesterday evening temp was low 60s to upper 50s.GOM said 190 miles. That would estimate out to 220mi. You think that’s updated?

Job 2 vehicle, so no. Is that somehow confusing to people?

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[intoMME]

I have driven my AWD Select over 10,000 miles, and not once have I run out of range 7 miles before my destination, nor have I ever run out of range. If you had the option to pay a higher price for the car to get 7 miles more range, would you? You lose that amount of range by punching it at an intersection or letting your tire pressure drop. Not a big deal.

 

[jlauro]

I have driven my AWD Select over 10,000 miles, and not once have I run out of range 7 miles before my destination, nor have I ever run out of range. If you had the option to pay a higher price for the car to get 7 miles more range, would you? You lose that amount of range by punching it at an intersection or letting your tire pressure drop. Not a big deal.

This isn't an ICE vehicle, so you don't lose nearly that much punching it at an intersection, even over the course of several intersections from full to empty on a battery. Test it out if you don't believe me. Far more is lost from temp, etc...
You can lose over 7miles of range by breaking too fast. Far more potential of loss from that then accelerating.


For 7 miles, I probably wouldn't pay extra, but without a $ amount I can't really answer. Yeah, I'll unlock that for a penny...

 

[buzznwood]

I have driven my AWD Select over 10,000 miles, and not once have I run out of range 7 miles before my destination, nor have I ever run out of range. If you had the option to pay a higher price for the car to get 7 miles more range, would you? You lose that amount of range by punching it at an intersection or letting your tire pressure drop. Not a big deal.

But in this instance you have already payed for those miles, its not like the 2022 are getting a larger gross battery size, all that is happened it that the net value has been changed via software. The 2022 are getting the same warranty on the battery as a 2021 so the pack is fine to handle the tiny increase.

Ford will not have had the opportunity to do any longer term testing data on this pack so they will be eager to data mine as much as possible from each vehicle sold as it will help dictate design choices going forward and show up potential problems that they can fix in future vehicle to improve the products they produce, early owners won't care about being test subjects if they also get those software updates, limiting them to old school new model year mentality is not going to win long term customers.

 

[Nikos]

I do agree with most of you. Ford made a lot of preproduction Mach E and run them to all places in N America. Data is collected and then production started. Ford and EPA come out with the numbers. All is good up to that point.
Ford also said that OTA updates will improve the range by freeing some of the reserve capacity of the battery. In the mean time Ford keeps collecting data from its customers as we driving the Mach Es. The vehicles are driven everywhere. Up and down mountains, flat dessert terrain, coastlines, northern cold environments and southern hot environments. Now...when they release an update it covers the entire fleet irregardless where the vehicle is.
We know that the Premium model has different settings/requirements than the Select model. Size of the battery also has a different software. Now we get this info/release that 2021 Mach Es won't get the 2022 updated battery capacity extension. 3Kwh increase.
Do we have to assume that there is a different software in the 2022 than the 21. I believe it is. That is what Ford had to say. Tesla does the same thing.
As some of us are irritated by these news, we are not alone. Even Tesla fun boys and girls are irritated by Tesla's software releases. Yes...OTA updates improve the vehicle functions.....which vehicle functions. We know that Tesla can improve braking with OTA updates. Also can improve mileage/range so their customers won't have to worry about range during the holiday season travel. But they don't explain what gives. You get little bit of range but they control the speed or the acceleration or they heat up the battery for a more optimum operation.
I think the 2022 Mach E gets a different software. Myself I would like to have that extending range of 3Kwh but at what price. 2022 are on the average $1000 more than 2021. I love my Mach E and truly when I charge it to 100%, I get 300+ miles out of it. 300-270=30.
If Ford wants to give me the 3Kwh, I will take them but I am not willing to pay $1000 for 3Kwh increase.
I am happy with what I have.
I am more interested and irritated also that we haven't gotten our Blue Cruise update yet. They postponed the update from late fall to early 2022.??!!
That is the update we all want on our 2021 Mach Es. Let us see how much longer we have to wait for that update.

 

[Jimrpa]

Job 2 vehicle, so no. Is that somehow confusing to people?

It would be a heck of a lot less confusing if there were clear definitions of “job 1 vehicles” and “job 2 vehicles” ?

 

[Jimrpa]

Title can change to "Some 2021s won't get the increase." If you have over 36k miles and/or updates don't load then you won't get it."

Kinda makes you wonder. Why are owners with more than 36k miles excluded? Seems awful strange. There must be some other changes with the calibrations that Ford isn't telling us about....
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Where did this “36K” come from?

 

[jlauro]

Where did this “36K” come from?

It's Ford's warranty for the Mach E.

 

[timbop]

I have driven my AWD Select over 10,000 miles, and not once have I run out of range 7 miles before my destination, nor have I ever run out of range. If you had the option to pay a higher price for the car to get 7 miles more range, would you? You lose that amount of range by punching it at an intersection or letting your tire pressure drop. Not a big deal.

This isn't an ICE vehicle, so you don't lose nearly that much punching it at an intersection, even over the course of several intersections from full to empty on a battery. Test it out if you don't believe me. Far more is lost from temp, etc...
You can lose over 7miles of range by breaking too fast. Far more potential of loss from that then accelerating.


For 7 miles, I probably wouldn't pay extra, but without a $ amount I can't really answer. Yeah, I'll unlock that for a penny...

But in this instance you have already payed for those miles, its not like the 2022 are getting a larger gross battery size, all that is happened it that the net value has been changed via software. The 2022 are getting the same warranty on the battery as a 2021 so the pack is fine to handle the tiny increase.

Ford will not have had the opportunity to do any longer term testing data on this pack so they will be eager to data mine as much as possible from each vehicle sold as it will help dictate design choices going forward and show up potential problems that they can fix in future vehicle to improve the products they produce, early owners won't care about being test subjects if they also get those software updates, limiting them to old school new model year mentality is not going to win long term customers.

I do agree with most of you. Ford made a lot of preproduction Mach E and run them to all places in N America. Data is collected and then production started. Ford and EPA come out with the numbers. All is good up to that point.
Ford also said that OTA updates will improve the range by freeing some of the reserve capacity of the battery. In the mean time Ford keeps collecting data from its customers as we driving the Mach Es. The vehicles are driven everywhere. Up and down mountains, flat dessert terrain, coastlines, northern cold environments and southern hot environments. Now...when they release an update it covers the entire fleet irregardless where the vehicle is.
We know that the Premium model has different settings/requirements than the Select model. Size of the battery also has a different software. Now we get this info/release that 2021 Mach Es won't get the 2022 updated battery capacity extension. 3Kwh increase.
Do we have to assume that there is a different software in the 2022 than the 21. I believe it is. That is what Ford had to say. Tesla does the same thing.
As some of us are irritated by these news, we are not alone. Even Tesla fun boys and girls are irritated by Tesla's software releases. Yes...OTA updates improve the vehicle functions.....which vehicle functions. We know that Tesla can improve braking with OTA updates. Also can improve mileage/range so their customers won't have to worry about range during the holiday season travel. But they don't explain what gives. You get little bit of range but they control the speed or the acceleration or they heat up the battery for a more optimum operation.
I think the 2022 Mach E gets a different software. Myself I would like to have that extending range of 3Kwh but at what price. 2022 are on the average $1000 more than 2021. I love my Mach E and truly when I charge it to 100%, I get 300+ miles out of it. 300-270=30.
If Ford wants to give me the 3Kwh, I will take them but I am not willing to pay $1000 for 3Kwh increase.
I am happy with what I have.
I am more interested and irritated also that we haven't gotten our Blue Cruise update yet. They postponed the update from late fall to early 2022.??!!
That is the update we all want on our 2021 Mach Es. Let us see how much longer we have to wait for that update.

It would be a heck of a lot less confusing if there were clear definitions of “job 1 vehicles” and “job 2 vehicles” ?

You all do realize that the original information was incorrect, as confirmed several times in this thread, right?

The Job 1 cars WILL be getting it by OTA, when they finally square away the OTA process.

 

[jlauro]

You all do realize that the original information was incorrect, as confirmed several times in this thread, right?

Of course (at least I do), but you do realize this is the internet, and a little thing like an answer to an OP will not stop comments on hypothetical questions that may or may not be related.

 

[buzznwood]

You all do realize that the original information was incorrect, as confirmed several times in this thread, right?

The Job 1 cars WILL be getting it by OTA, when they finally square away the OTA process.

Yes, but just because Ford says something will happen until it actually happens it is just words on a screen. After all Fords words on a screen state that the GT would have the same brakes as the GTPE but it doesn't.

Now does this mean it won't happen of course not, but until it does there is always going to be on going discussions on threads and when the updates finally do happen we will no doubt instead have threads filled with those that have yet to receive the update. As when it comes to the role out of updates via OTA so far it has been far from impressive.

 

[timbop]

Yes, but just because Ford says something will happen until it actually happens it is just words on a screen. After all Fords words on a screen state that the GT would have the same brakes as the GTPE but it doesn't.

Now does this mean it won't happen of course not, but until it does there is always going to be on going discussions on threads and when the updates finally do happen we will no doubt instead have threads filled with those that have yet to receive the update. As when it comes to the role out of updates via OTA so far it has been far from impressive.

Yes, but the OP and cause of this thread is bad information reported through a blog and has been refuted by Darren Palmer AND several other far more credible sources than "fordauthority.com" and hannah ooms. Hannah Ooms gave out bad info and that's OK because it happens, but let's learn and move on.

Instead the tone CONTINUES to follow the trend that the OP is gospel and any contravening information is simply heresay, which is becoming ludicrous.

This constantly happens here, with people reading the title, OP, and nothing else and then piling on with angst and reaching for the proverbial pitchforks and torches. @Administrator there needs to be a policy that when threads like this come to a resolution the title be updated to reflect that the entire premise is incorrect and "there's nothing to see here".

 

[Gimme_my_MME]

Here @timbop, I think this is what you're looking for

 

[nvabill]

Here @timbop, I think this is what you're looking for

Bingo! ?

 

[Shayne]

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«The information director at Ford in Norway, Anne Sønsteby, would like to remove "all doubt", and states that model year 2021 of Mustang Mach-E gets the same wireless update of usable battery capacity as the 2022 models, which started production November 28 .»

https://motor.no/aktuelt/ford-garanterer-batteroppgradering-av-eldre-mustanger/215674 (Norwegian)

I never doubted it as that would become a PR nightmare. The charging above 80% and up to 100% practically possible at DCFC's it a whole lot more important for us up north. A better charging curve and a 20% increase right off the top. I will take both ? 91 KWh to 100% is close to a 30% increase from the old trip range of 80% of 88KWh. Thank you Ford and Merry Christmas to MME owners.

Now how about a comment on that 5 second DISASTER on the GTs???

Wait your turn we have been waiting for a while.

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