Range lower than EPA estimate?

[billy_at]

I just got my CA Route 1 yesterday, which I bought in part because of its insanely long range of 305 miles to a charge.

I was surprised to get in the car and see that the total range of the car was much lower. Based on the range the car was reporting and the battery charge percentage, it looked like the car could only get a max of 250 miles to a full 100% charge (not that I’ve ever charged it to 100 - I stick to 80%).

A day later, the range seems to have changed - based on the reported miles of range and the battery percentage, it now looks like a theoretical 100% charge would get me 278 miles.

Will I ever see anything close to the EPA estimate of 305 miles in the Mach-E’s display?

Also, why did my range go up? I’ve only had the car for two days, but is it learning about my driving style and adjusting its estimate based on that?

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[timbop]

This is actually a sticky thread:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ulate-how-far-your-mach-e-can-really-go.6104/

 

[Brofessional]

I just got my CA Route 1 yesterday, which I bought in part because of its insanely long range of 305 miles to a charge.

I was surprised to get in the car and see that the total range of the car was much lower. Based on the range the car was reporting and the battery charge percentage, it looked like the car could only get a max of 250 miles to a full 100% charge (not that I’ve ever charged it to 100 - I stick to 80%).

A day later, the range seems to have changed - based on the reported miles of range and the battery percentage, it now looks like a theoretical 100% charge would get me 278 miles.

Will I ever see anything close to the EPA estimate of 305 miles in the Mach-E’s display?

Also, why did my range go up? I’ve only had the car for two days, but is it learning about my driving style and adjusting its estimate based on that?

Yep. It’s estimating based on recent driving history. You can reset the history to get rid of whatever confounding data it may be working with that makes the estimate so low when they arrive.

For what it’s worth your actual range is independent from whatever it’s estimating. If reports from every automotive outlet that have tested are accurate, you should be able to exceed the epa estimated range fairly easily in decent conditions. Ford’s estimation algorithm has been thus far notoriously pessimistic.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

I just got my CA Route 1 yesterday, which I bought in part because of its insanely long range of 305 miles to a charge.

I was surprised to get in the car and see that the total range of the car was much lower. Based on the range the car was reporting and the battery charge percentage, it looked like the car could only get a max of 250 miles to a full 100% charge (not that I’ve ever charged it to 100 - I stick to 80%).

A day later, the range seems to have changed - based on the reported miles of range and the battery percentage, it now looks like a theoretical 100% charge would get me 278 miles.

Will I ever see anything close to the EPA estimate of 305 miles in the Mach-E’s display?

Also, why did my range go up? I’ve only had the car for two days, but is it learning about my driving style and adjusting its estimate based on that?

Go check out the Edmunds EV range test and be happy. They got 344 miles from the CA Rt 1 in their controlled test. Whether or not their 60/40 city/hwy mix reflects your commute, all of the EVs they tested were subjected to it so the results are directly comparable.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html

 

[vinny2487]

I just got my CA Route 1 yesterday, which I bought in part because of its insanely long range of 305 miles to a charge.

I was surprised to get in the car and see that the total range of the car was much lower. Based on the range the car was reporting and the battery charge percentage, it looked like the car could only get a max of 250 miles to a full 100% charge (not that I’ve ever charged it to 100 - I stick to 80%).

A day later, the range seems to have changed - based on the reported miles of range and the battery percentage, it now looks like a theoretical 100% charge would get me 278 miles.

Will I ever see anything close to the EPA estimate of 305 miles in the Mach-E’s display?

Also, why did my range go up? I’ve only had the car for two days, but is it learning about my driving style and adjusting its estimate based on that?

The range is constantly changing due to your driving habits. Since the car is so new, it may take several hundred miles before the range gets anywhere near the 300 mile mark. Just keep driving the car and the range will gradually increase.

I also got my car yesterday. Range at full charge was 260 miles. Did a little bit more driving today and the range was 270. There's nothing to be worried about.

 

[jlauro]

Temperature will also impact your range (both high and especially cold), and I think that is factored into the estimated range.

 

[RedStallion]

I just got my CA Route 1 yesterday, which I bought in part because of its insanely long range of 305 miles to a charge.

I was surprised to get in the car and see that the total range of the car was much lower. Based on the range the car was reporting and the battery charge percentage, it looked like the car could only get a max of 250 miles to a full 100% charge (not that I’ve ever charged it to 100 - I stick to 80%).

A day later, the range seems to have changed - based on the reported miles of range and the battery percentage, it now looks like a theoretical 100% charge would get me 278 miles.

Will I ever see anything close to the EPA estimate of 305 miles in the Mach-E’s display?

Also, why did my range go up? I’ve only had the car for two days, but is it learning about my driving style and adjusting its estimate based on that?

Range depends on very many variables. While driving I observed efficiency anywhere from 1.8m/kWh to 5.6m/kWh, that's more than 3x wide range. The car will keep collecting your driving information and update the estimates based on average efficiency it calculates for your driving.

 

[billy_at]

Just to update this thread for anyone who comes across it in the future, my range did end up increasing as I drove the car. The implied range on a full charge is now 307 miles. But I have seen times when it got closer to 320.

 

[timbop]

Again, for a more accurate representation is the mi/kwh you actually achieved vs the projected range in the GOM. For example, if it shows mi/kwh of 3.3 that is roughly 290 mi range, 3.5 is about 308, etc. I say roughly because the mi/kwh is rounded off so 3.3 is really anywhere between 3.2 and 3.4, but it's close enough for a reasonable estimate

 

[ttripp]

Just to update this thread for anyone who comes across it in the future, my range did end up increasing as I drove the car. The implied range on a full charge is now 307 miles. But I have seen times when it got closer to 320.

I know this is an old thread but I just got my 2022 Premium Extended range and so I’m in those first few days of estimated range (much lower than the EPA 303 miles). Do you need to drive in Whisper mode to get decent range? I understand Unbridled might not be that efficient but I’m not sure about the “Normal/Balanced” mode and Whisper seems a little too reserved.

I guess on the subject, it seems that 1pedal driving would increase range because of the regen, but most of my driving is highway where you’d see more range on an ICE but maybe not on EV. Just trying to learn!

 

[hybrid2bev]

I know this is an old thread but I just got my 2022 Premium Extended range and so I’m in those first few days of estimated range (much lower than the EPA 303 miles). Do you need to drive in Whisper mode to get decent range? I understand Unbridled might not be that efficient but I’m not sure about the “Normal/Balanced” mode and Whisper seems a little too reserved.

I guess on the subject, it seems that 1pedal driving would increase range because of the regen, but most of my driving is highway where you’d see more range on an ICE but maybe not on EV. Just trying to learn!

Check out this thread.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/whisper-mode-results-in-better-mileage.13216/

 

[jlauro]

I know this is an old thread but I just got my 2022 Premium Extended range and so I’m in those first few days of estimated range (much lower than the EPA 303 miles). Do you need to drive in Whisper mode to get decent range? I understand Unbridled might not be that efficient but I’m not sure about the “Normal/Balanced” mode and Whisper seems a little too reserved.

I guess on the subject, it seems that 1pedal driving would increase range because of the regen, but most of my driving is highway where you’d see more range on an ICE but maybe not on EV. Just trying to learn!

Outdoor temp over 70F will cause better range. 1PD and whisper mode don't make a significant difference compared to how cold temp. can drop the range by 40% or more.

 

[timbop]

I know this is an old thread but I just got my 2022 Premium Extended range and so I’m in those first few days of estimated range (much lower than the EPA 303 miles). Do you need to drive in Whisper mode to get decent range? I understand Unbridled might not be that efficient but I’m not sure about the “Normal/Balanced” mode and Whisper seems a little too reserved.

I guess on the subject, it seems that 1pedal driving would increase range because of the regen, but most of my driving is highway where you’d see more range on an ICE but maybe not on EV. Just trying to learn!

You resurrected the wrong thread. Try looking here or here

 

[D_P_Mach-e]

I just got my CA Route 1 yesterday, which I bought in part because of its insanely long range of 305 miles to a charge.

I was surprised to get in the car and see that the total range of the car was much lower. Based on the range the car was reporting and the battery charge percentage, it looked like the car could only get a max of 250 miles to a full 100% charge (not that I’ve ever charged it to 100 - I stick to 80%).

A day later, the range seems to have changed - based on the reported miles of range and the battery percentage, it now looks like a theoretical 100% charge would get me 278 miles.

Will I ever see anything close to the EPA estimate of 305 miles in the Mach-E’s display?

Also, why did my range go up? I’ve only had the car for two days, but is it learning about my driving style and adjusting its estimate based on that?

I have 11,000 miles on mine now and I am unhappy with my EPA. I have the premium version which should get 230 miles, but I am only getting 65% even at 100% charge. I am using the whisper mode with one pedal but it does not seem to help. I have reset my driving history and it will show 212 miles but drop with 10 miles of driving. I read where everyone was stating that it out preformed the EPA but I am not seeing it.

 

[RickMachE]

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