Stop Safely Now (HVBJB): Mach-E Owners Biggest Fear - Facts and Info Thread

[mkhuffman]

Just my experience, but I treat my Mach-E GTPE with kid gloves and it still blew the HVBJB (still in the shop after a month). 5 months old, odometer 2500 miles.

I only use Level 1 charging (Ford supplied charger on 120 VAC), HV battery is fully charged (90%) before I disconnect, garage kept (no parked environmental extremes), short trips (less than 20 miles), very rare hard accelerations and/or braking, no extreme outside temperatures thus far, no pre-conditioning.

So, for at least my situation, I cannot attribute this failure to any unusual situations. Plus, it would be sad if anyone had to drive their GT Performance edition like a nanny, even when they are waiting for a fix...?

This is why I think it is a combination of various tolerances that occur during the part and vehicle manufacturing process that make some cars more susceptible. Your case is the rare one that proves driving and charging behavior is probably not making failures more likely.

I am following Ford's recommendation regarding L1/L2 charging for battery health reasons, but I don't think it will make it less likely my car will fail. I think that is outside of my control.

But as always, I am only guessing. And every day more information comes to light that could change my guesstitude. An official announcement from Ford will make guessing unnecessary.

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[Addos]

Well, and there is a concept known as dogfooding too, where you'd think if these cars were driven as daily drivers by Ford employees, you would have expected some of them to have experienced similar problems.

 

[DevSecOps]

Well, and there is a concept known as dogfooding too, where you'd think if these cars were driven as daily drivers by Ford employees, you would have expected some of them to have experienced similar problems.

Maybe they have... Just saying ?

 

[macchiaz-o]

Well, and there is a concept known as dogfooding too, where you'd think if these cars were driven as daily drivers by Ford employees, you would have expected some of them to have experienced similar problems.

This absolutely does happen. When possible, potential solutions are qualified through company owned vehicles first, then expanded to trusted rings, vehicles brought in to service for relevant concerns, etc, before rolling out to broader populations.

 

[machdady]

The take away for me is: its a design flaw and there is no rhyme or reason or a specific factor, so drive the car as if nothing will happen and worry about it when the time comes (and hopefully a fix comes before that time).

 

[rcechinel]

Should we start a Twitter thread, making this a VERY PUBLIC knowledge thing? I feel the only people who know are the people here. Let's blow this thing up and force Ford's hand. Which hashtags should we use?
#hvbjb #mach-e #ford #fordfail
I can create the first post and post the link here. Enough with this crap, really.

 

[DevSecOps]

Should we start a Twitter thread, making this a VERY PUBLIC knowledge thing. I feel the only people who know are the people here. Let's blow this thing up and force Ford's hand. Which hashtags should we use?
#hvbjb #mach-e #ford #fordfail
I can create the first post and post the link here. Enough with this crap, really.

A lot of owners filled NHTSA complaints. There's a legal process that this has to go through. Twitter won't make that any faster.

As one of the highest viewed topics on this forum, I doubt it's lacking attention. Additionally, Ford employees, who know me, have already contacted me about this post. They understand everyone wants answers and they are working on it.

 

[rcechinel]

A lot of owners filled NHTSA complaints. There's a legal process that this has to go through. Twitter won't make that any faster.

As one of the highest viewed topics on this forum, I doubt it's lacking attention. Additionally, Ford employees, who know me, have already contacted me about this post. They understand everyone wants answers and they are working on it.

Engineers are working on it. Jim Farley isn't. He will when the board is on his ass because the media is trash talking Ford and doubting his ability to execute on the strategy hehas been selling to Wall Street. That's how it works.
I work on a large software company. That's how it goes.

 

[scoopman]

This is basically me, not driving my car, right now.

 

[rcechinel]

Done. Feel free to engage or not. It's just too much disrespect. Enough with the silence.

 

[generaltso]

Engineers are working on it. Jim Farley isn't.

How do you know he's not?

 

[rcechinel]

How do you know he's not?

Because he didn't say so. Exactly my point! Come out and talk to consumers. He is all talk to Wall Street. He doesn't address any problems and then bashes his dealerships as if Ford is not at fault for their dealers' network and practices.

 

[DevSecOps]

Because he didn't say so. Exactly my point! Come out and talk to consumers. He is all talk to Wall Street. He doesn't address any problems and then bashes his dealerships as if Ford is not at fault for their dealers' network and practices.

The problem is that you work for an industry that doesn't have the same legal requirements and you're attempting to compare the two. I've worked for some of the largest tech companies in the world (as have many others commenting on this thread) and we don't have to watch every last little thing we say online. I've learned, through my interactions with Ford, that the auto industry is VERY different when it comes to public disclosure.

The reason Ford doesn't confirm or deny anything on this forum, and they always take communication to DMs is because, by law, they have to report those interactions, including the name and details of the person that they are in communication with to the NHTSA. You'll see the official Ford account say things like "nice picture" or "wow that's amazing" otherwise it goes to DM so that they can collect PII, in private, as required by law.

You're obviously free to try whatever you want. I just don't think you're gonna have much success. My sources say that soon we will know more and that it's getting wrapped up in legal.

 

[Kevin P]

Because he didn't say so. Exactly my point! Come out and talk to consumers. He is all talk to Wall Street. He doesn't address any problems and then bashes his dealerships as if Ford is not at fault for their dealers' network and practices.

Anyone who expects a CEO of a giant company to directly address an infrequent product problem, in public, is naïve. At best.

 

[rcechinel]

Anyone who expects a CEO of a giant company to directly address an infrequent product problem, in public, is naïve. At best.

I will respectfully disagree. Musk does it all the time. And Jim copies Tesla in everything.
Soooo many important things start in social media. Have you lived under a rock for the past 3 years? lol

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