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The really sad part is looking around at other automakers Ford is arguably doing the "best" job of legacy auto when it comes to pushing software updates and expanding features at all. Seems to be a bit of a low bar though.
Yeah you’re right on that. Ford is probably number 3 behind Tesla and Rivian and there’s a BIG gap between them and Ford. Then probably a bigger gap between Ford and the next automaker.
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Sorry but I think you missed my point, but thanks for your condescention.

I was communicating not that a physical knob isn't better than a laggy on-screen slider (it is!) but that Ford has designed multiple touch areas in different places with different mental maps that will randomly change the modality of that physical knob.

It's like if I told you that, in your house, you had one knob stuck to your wall. Want to change how hot your Thanksgiving turkey is cooking? Well, tap on the temp button on your oven, then walk over to the wall and turn that dial. Want to change your house's furnace temperature? Well go to your thermostat, tap that, then walk over to the wall with that same dial on it and turn it. Want to change a light dimmer? okay, well hit that light switch, then go over to that same dial.

This is the Ford UI expressed in your house.

I've only seen the videos, hopefully this may not be as mentally taxing as I think it could turn out to be.

Hope you now understand my criticism of this as someone who's worked in the auto infotainment / driver distraction space in the past, and that you don't decide to leave me another turkey of a reponse.
Except that you’re not touching a button one place and then walking somewhere else to twist a knob. It’s. All. Right. There. It’s an array of HVAC controls, no more confusing than any other. You tap a button, twist the knob. Easy. You are straining to make an issue that doesn’t exist.

Now, granted, I don’t have a background in the “auto infotainment / driver distraction space” LOL, but you sir are talking out of your hat.
 

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Not to harp on the bad UI design, but…
Ford Mustang Mach-E Sync 4A Update Overview from Ford - Larger Apple CarPlay Android Auto interface, added dial functionality & more 1669243594374

Why are the frunk, trunk, and charge port Icons wedged up in the corner. It’s like they said, “hey this functional graphic of the car is taking up too much space so let’s put in a smaller non functional one with tiny buttons hidden in it.” “Shoupd they be centered?” “Nah just throw them as far away from the driver as possible”

Good god they can’t figure out good design to save their lives. Lol
 

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Not to harp on the bad UI design, but…
Ford Mustang Mach-E Sync 4A Update Overview from Ford - Larger Apple CarPlay Android Auto interface, added dial functionality & more 1669243594374

Why are the frunk, trunk, and charge port Icons wedged up in the corner. It’s like they said, “hey this functional graphic of the car is taking up too much space so let’s put in a smaller non functional one with tiny buttons hidden in it.” “Shoupd they be centered?” “Nah just throw them as far away from the driver as possible”

Good god they can’t figure out good design to save their lives. Lol
Yeah, they were comically big before so shrinking them for more efficient use of screen real-estate made sense, but making them that small and shoved in the corner overlayed onto a huge graphic taking up space? At least they condensed them onto the main drive mode screen but I can't say that was a good way of doing it.
 

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Hopefully the extra vertical space they gave CarPlay will fix this odd layout Apple uses. The map being so small and horizontal makes it less useful than the smaller layout.
Ford Mustang Mach-E Sync 4A Update Overview from Ford - Larger Apple CarPlay Android Auto interface, added dial functionality & more 1669243594374
This seems to be one of the aspects where coolwalk improved when stealing this screen layout. They made the secondary task windows much smaller and the map much bigger...
 


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Yeah you’re right on that. Ford is probably number 3 behind Tesla and Rivian and there’s a BIG gap between them and Ford. Then probably a bigger gap between Ford and the next automaker.
I'm sure Ford is spending more resources on their next gen Android based system then they are on this yucky QNX spaghetti code in our cars.
 

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Yeah, they were comically big before so shrinking them for more efficient use of screen real-estate made sense, but making them that small and shoved in the corner overlayed onto a huge graphic taking up space? At least they condensed them onto the main drive mode screen but I can't say that was a good way of doing it.
Well at least they replaced the little non color coded visual of a Mach E with a large one that doesn't match my front grill in this version.
 

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Except that you’re not touching a button one place and then walking somewhere else to twist a knob. It’s. All. Right. There. It’s an array of HVAC controls, no more confusing than any other. You tap a button, twist the knob. Easy. You are straining to make an issue that doesn’t exist.

Now, granted, I don’t have a background in the “auto infotainment / driver distraction space” LOL, but you sir are talking out of your hat.
I'm not so sure this is going to be less cognitive load than the current design, and will either reduce the number of glances or time to task completion.

But it is a nice party trick 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Yeah, they were comically big before so shrinking them for more efficient use of screen real-estate made sense, but making them that small and shoved in the corner overlayed onto a huge graphic taking up space? At least they condensed them onto the main drive mode screen but I can't say that was a good way of doing it.
Thank you! It’s like they way over corrected and made them tiny. I guarantee people are going to miss them and then be on here or FB asking where the buttons are.
 

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I'm not so sure this is going to be less cognitive load than the current design, and will either reduce the number of glances or time to task completion.

But it is a nice party trick 🤷🏻‍♂️
I think it's really hard to argue that button press->physical dial movement is not a significant improvement vs button press-> touch screen slider (something that should be avoided by UI designers at all costs). Sure, it would be a lot better if we just had physical buttons, but given the existing hardware this is a great change.
 

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I don't know why but 2021 Job 1 cars have been tragically orphaned on getting updates for some reason, but later cars have been getting updates so this isn't necessarily a reason to think the rollout would take that long to start for everyone else. Certainly feel bad for those early buyers though.
Not true. I’ve got all the recent updates OTA and I’ve got a Job 1 2021.
 

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I'm not so sure this is going to be less cognitive load than the current design, and will either reduce the number of glances or time to task completion.

But it is a nice party trick 🤷🏻‍♂️
The only significant change from current design HVAC design is that, when tapping a function, the pop-up slider is replaced or supplemented by the knob function. Yes, it IS easier to use the tactile knob than trying to adjust those sliders. If the substitution of a tactile control increases your “cognitive load” I just don’t know…
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